It all depends on how you understand time travelling. For example, in BttF 2, 2 versions of the same person share time and space and they even see each other, and the world is not over.
they never touched, and the whole incident lasted 3 seconds... maybe it needs more TIME for the rift to develop
Yeah, that's what I mena... dealing with this kind of stuff we are always been conditioned by 'maybes' and we can not assure that a double-hiro episode could happen.
Take this possibility...
Peter meets Niki, it absorbs his powers and boost them (remember he didn't needed to be high to paint the future, so he can bring them to unknown extremes). So, we have this Peter with extreme double personality... and he splits into 2 bodies, not just 2 minds. Good Peter and Bad Peter.
Good P get kind of hurt in a confrontation and for some reason yet to be decided, Hiro is taking care of him. Maybe, Bad P wants to be the one to take control of the regular Peter (with no split personality) and Hiro is to protect him, but not very into combat techniques yet. Then Hiro from the future appears with his katana and faces Bad P ending up slicing him upside down with a nasty wound crossing his face. Good P feels the pain too and while Bad P body's vanishes, the scar appears in regular Peter.
Going back to Peter's Scar, he always seems to wear his hair with a large fringe on the right hand side of his face. Is this to maybe say that the scar will be on his right cheek?
Going back to Peter's Scar, he always seems to wear his hair with a large fringe on the right hand side of his face. Is this to maybe say that the scar will be on his right cheek?
Are you suggesting he is the grown-up version of Harry Poter? XD
There is trunk's time traveling version and then there is the grandpa's version. This version states that if one were to kill one's grandpa would one cease to exist? That's a mind boggler. I lean more towards the multiverse where there are various universes and paralel worlds etc...
future Hiro probably did met future Peter post scare. Now that Hiro time travel back, he changed the time line. Maybe Peter will get a scare anyways in the future. Maybe he won't. If Heroes last a couple of seasons then I doubt the story will go apoccalyptic. More stories to explore in a regular time line.
If he gets a scar, who knows when or how. But a scare would suggest a bad outcome. I doubt the story line is going that way.
Back to the Future was fun when I was a kid, but I hate the assumptions about the nature of time travel that it has left on audiences... if time was really so linear and unstable, then any time travel would likely cause great amounts of change... changes which would cone in effect, becoming more and more apparent the farther into the future you go
I definitely do not think that if Future Hiro killed Present Hiro, that Future Hiro would die...
I had this explained to me once in the following manner several years ago, and it's really worked for me... imagine time and your life line both as a string... Hiro bends space/time... so effectively, he folds the string and steps from one point to another...
so fold a piece of string in half... one half represents past and present Hiro... the other half represents future Hiro... the halfway point where the string is bent is where they meet, and Future Hiro kills Present Hiro... cut the string at that point...
Past/Present Hiro's string suddenly got shorter... but Future Hiro's half of the string didn't mysteriously just disappear... the word Continuum has meaning here... you can change the way the Continuum does its continuing, but it still continues nonetheless... Future and Present Hiro are each different people with their own flow of continuation... just because one stops flowing, doesnt mean the other stops abruptly as well...
also note that as soon as Future Hiro steps out of the future, he's no longer a part of it... thus effecting the future does not necessarily effect him (hence my assertion that he is a unique identity with his own unique flow of continuation)
(and yes, at this point, I think it is siphon, not mimic).
What will happen when Peter meets Niki?
And what will happen when Peter meets more than one special at the same time?
Maybe he'll split and his own alter-ego will CUT HIS DAGGUM HAIR!!
Sorry, that's the only thing that rips me on Peter...
So far as meeting more than one super at a time - he'll certainly be the most powerful super in the immediate vicinity.
My question about Peter flying (and thus indirectly about other obtained skills): What do you suppose would happen to him if he took off like Nate did? Would he zip up, up, and away only to find himself careening to earth once he's out of "range" of his bro' or does the power absorption / mimic / siphon subside only after a matter of time?
I recall the stick figure drawing of himself and Nathan, where he (Peter) is walking 4' off the ground, but where was he when he drew it? Wasn't it after he left Isaac's apartment? I can't remember the sequence, and I don't have it on my DVR anymore... Aargh!
Good question. I addressed this in another thread. If you recall, all we know about that incident was that Peter jumped, Nathan flew in for the rescue, and then Nathan began to struggle with his flying and strength.
Later, it was revealed that both flew. Thus Peter siphoned Nathan's ability causing Nathan to weaken and he had to either drop Peter or they both fell. Regardless, I think it is quite obvious (from last night's exhibition of going SuperSonic and the ripped muscles) that Nathan is easily fast enough and strong enough to support another human in flight.
I don't believe that is the case at all. I believe you are looking at it as sort of a "Rogue" ability of draining the power from another person.
However, Issac didn't look weak to me when he was finishing the painting? On the rooftop Nathan looked fine when he was levitating. Also it's questionable, but either Peter was not locked in time like everyone else because.
A. Hiro is just so powerful and can control his ability so well by then he can select who is locked and unlocked in his time freeze.
-or-
B. While Hiro is there Peter is sharing his powers like he did with Issac & Nathan allowing him to move freely in Hiro's time freeze.
So it's up the air.
It is also possible, that Hiro can "only" move in the past/future in a frozen state meaning the only person he could goto in the past was Peter because he would automatically share Hiro's ability.
I personally suspect Peter can "mimic" or "clone" abilities within a radius of another advanced being. I don't believe it is a syphon or leech of their powers as you are suggesting, but that is purely my opinion.
Also Nathan can fly, he doesn't have super strength. When was the last time you tried supporting someones entire body weight in mid air, I suspect it would be very difficult. What your suggesting is that Nathan dropped peter because peter was weakening him, but wouldn't he just weaken his super power not his basic human strength?
In the comic he rescues a girl who looks to be half Peters size, and notibly after his first flying experience with Peter which gave him an opportunity to test his ability out, so I think that was a much more reasonable test of strength.
I just think Peter weighed to much for him to hold onto in that immediate situation and with his lack of knowledge of his ability. From his show in the desert it seems Nathan has an extremely better grasp on what he can do.
Does any of that make sense or am I just rambling? lol
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Good question. I addressed this in another thread. If you recall, all we know about that incident was that Peter jumped, Nathan flew in for the rescue, and then Nathan began to struggle with his flying and strength.
Later, it was revealed that both flew. Thus Peter siphoned Nathan's ability causing Nathan to weaken and he had to either drop Peter or they both fell. Regardless, I think it is quite obvious (from last night's exhibition of going SuperSonic and the ripped muscles) that Nathan is easily fast enough and strong enough to support another human in flight.
I don't believe that is the case at all. I believe you are looking at it as sort of a "Rogue" ability of draining the power from another person.
However, Issac didn't look weak to me when he was finishing the painting? On the rooftop Nathan looked fine when he was levitating. Also it's questionable, but either Peter was not locked in time like everyone else because.
A. Hiro is just so powerful and can control his ability so well by then he can select who is locked and unlocked in his time freeze.
-or-
B. While Hiro is there Peter is sharing his powers like he did with Issac & Nathan allowing him to move freely in Hiro's time freeze.
So it's up the air.
It is also possible, that Hiro can "only" move in the past/future in a frozen state meaning the only person he could goto in the past was Peter because he would automatically share Hiro's ability.
I personally suspect Peter can "mimic" or "clone" abilities within a radius of another advanced being. I don't believe it is a syphon or leech of their powers as you are suggesting, but that is purely my opinion.
i would like to think option A here, because if you look at the episode peter is moving even before Hiro appears. there was like a good 3-4 seconds there where peter looked around all WTF? like. and then hiro appeared on the other side of the train. plus i lub hiro and the thought of him being uber time bender hiro i like
i would like to think option A here, because if you look at the episode peter is moving even before Hiro appears. there was like a good 3-4 seconds there where peter looked around all WTF? like. and then hiro appeared on the other side of the train. plus i lub hiro and the thought of him being uber time bender hiro i like Smile
I don't think anyone can question Hiro's uberness, I mean... seriously the dude has a samurai sword and a soul patch, doesn't that pretty much sum up uber?
Seriously though, the 3-4 seconds if you listen when Peter looks up, Hiro is walking on the roof of the Train., so that would account for the time delay in the freeze and Hiro showing up.
Also Nathan can fly, he doesn't have super strength. When was the last time you tried supporting someones entire body weight in mid air, I suspect it would be very difficult. What your suggesting is that Nathan dropped peter because peter was weakening him, but wouldn't he just weaken his super power not his basic human strength?
In the comic he rescues a girl who looks to be half Peters size, and notibly after his first flying experience with Peter which gave him an opportunity to test his ability out, so I think that was a much more reasonable test of strength.
I just think Peter weighed to much for him to hold onto in that immediate situation and with his lack of knowledge of his ability. From his show in the desert it seems Nathan has an extremely better grasp on what he can do.
Also remember that Peter was falling and Nathan was going upwards... this can make a quite nice collision capable of make Nathan not look that strong... Though, when he lands where hero is, he looks kind of build-up...
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