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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: X Men Question Reply with quote

A friend and I were discussing Heroes and as it seems all conversations about "mutants/special abilities" go, we started talking X Men. She posed the question "Who is Nightcrawler's Father?" I know Mystique is his mother, but I didnt know who the father was. Anyone out there know??
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azazel is his father.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMFG MYSTIC IS HIS MOTHER?

lol i knwo nothing of xmen, is beast and nightcrawler related?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I am wrong, but Beast is a science experiment gone awry.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHustonM wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Beast is a science experiment gone awry.


no... he just started getting hairy later in life... i think... he's your run of the mill mutant though
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's something like that for Beast.

Now, correct ME if I'm wrong, but I remember hearing/reading at one point that Mystique was originally planned as Nightcrawler's father...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mystique is female tho! How could this be??
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I remember it, that was part of the reason they decided not to.

Her power is to take the shape of any human form. So, a male-Mystique became Nightcrawler's father.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewww....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is kinda creepy. I mean, she's like a man/woman. So would she be a woman or would she be a man? Woman Iguess, cause her original form is female. Strange...I would be kinda disturbed knowing my father was a woman...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: ???? Reply with quote

Last I knew, Mystique was definitely female . . . I'm sure if she was posing as a man she could have a dong, if necessary, but what about sperm? It could never happen.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, keep in mind that, as I said, while I remember reading it, I can't find a reference to it.

That being said, a quick look at the Marvel Database mentions that there is no proof one way or another as to Mystique's gender at birth. In fact, there are clues that point to her being Sherlock Holmes (although, this could be as a male or female birth, to be fair).


Although... they also mention that she lost her powers at (at least) one point, so if someone had access to the comic where that happened, it would probably tell us a bit more.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHustonM wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Beast is a science experiment gone awry.


You are correct. His mutation was just the strength/agility. When Hank McCoy started looking for a cure, it furthered his mutation, making him all blue and furry.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Sherlock Holmes? Reply with quote

Sad I think I've missed any hints in the comics that Mystique may've been Sherlock Holmes . . . Any references? Also, I'm almost positive she's female; hasn't she given birth to children?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOUND IT! (sorry for all caps)

In Mystique's entry at wikipedia, under the heading of Destiny, it states:

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Veteran X-Men writer Chris Claremont has stated in interviews that he originally intended for Mystique and Destiny to be Nightcrawler's biological parents (Mystique having morphed into a man for the conception), but Marvel nixed the idea for being too controversial, due to it being a point in time where writers were prevented from having a character be gay or bisexual.



That said, she has had at least two children, Graydon Creed (to Sabretooth) and Nightcrawler (to Azazel).

In her entry at marveldatabase, it says:

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In addition, no evidence has been presented to confirm that she was born a woman at all. However, her earliest meeting with her friend Destiny (Irene Adler) is stated to have occured at "the dawn of the 20th century". Because a Sherlock Holmes character named Irene Adler from the same time period is romantically linked to Holmes, this can be interpreted to mean either that she was Holmes or that Holmes' apparent death in The Adventure of the Final Problem was real and that she replaced him afterwards; however, no comics story has confirmed this.
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