I believe that Peter is NOT the bomb that Hiro sees. Here is a little image I made explaining that:
It may look, from this picture, that Peter's watch doesn't say 7:35, but that's because it is upside down.
Hiro has the date wrong, but I highly doubt that he went an entire day in New York with his watch set wrong. When asked 'When did this all happen?', Hiro replies 'Yesterday!'
Hiro spent a day and a half in NY, plenty of time to realize his watch is set to the wrong time. Therefore, I think Hiro's watch is an accurate marker for when the bomb went off.
Wow nice thinking I never would have thought of that
Sylar know exactly who has what power. '6 months ago' shows us that mohindir's father has a record of the people on the list and their powers.
The Scene when Sylar gets pissed:
"Brian Davids..."
Glances at file.
"You think he's telekinetic? Or are you just going to toss him aside too?"
Sylar worked with mohinher's father and stole his research. Sylar knows the powers of everyone, before he kills them.
Doesn't prove he knows who has what power only shows what they could potentially have. I find it a bit far fetched to believe that in a show that is based in both a fanasty / real world you could have such a list without meeting them all and seeing their abilities first hand. In that case yes, I believe it is possible, but there is NOTHING in the HEROES' universe that suggests that Chandra Suresh had the time / funding to go meet all of them. Hence, it makes no sense that the list should contain EVERYONE's abilities, even if it shows some it should (in a real world setting) not show everyone's considering that Mohinder was right about one thing. That his dad would be driving a taxi in America. Your show quote above proves this.
"You THINK he's telekinetic? Or are you just going to toss him aside too?" Only shows that he has theories about who has what. Theories aren't proof. I stand by my statement. There is no way that Sylar would know everybody's powers based on Dr. Suresh's as yet incomplete list. There are those he would just have to kill and find out what they had. Besides, if he is so powerful and all, why then would he not go after the Cheerleader first? Knowing her power full well he should have considered it to be among the first to take not some visit that happens much later. Why then just the one or two attempts. If he knew of her power why would he just stop, sure he has other 'Supers' to go after, but hers is probably the most important power of all, just for not knowing what kind of side effects he might get. A level 1 strategist could even figure this out. If you are doing somethin that has never been done before and there is a way to possibly halt any negative effects from it why would you not get that first and NEVER stop until you had it.? That's like Strategy 101. The basics
I don't quite agree with your reasoning here, but we are all entitled to our opinions.
One thing that stands out for me though, is how much faith you put in Mr Grey's sanity. Sure, a Level 1 Strategist could figure out that Claire's healing ability is a smart first or second choice when taking new powers. But would a Level 1 Strategist make a speeching about how he'll "fix you, Mr. Davis", before driving a stone into his head?
This man is a deranged serial killer, even HRG comments on the possible mental degeneration taking place in Mr Grey's mind.
I don't quite agree with your reasoning here, but we are all entitled to our opinions.
One thing that stands out for me though, is how much faith you put in Mr Grey's sanity. Sure, a Level 1 Strategist could figure out that Claire's healing ability is a smart first or second choice when taking new powers. But would a Level 1 Strategist make a speeching about how he'll "fix you, Mr. Davis", before driving a stone into his head?
This man is a deranged serial killer, even HRG comments on the possible mental degeneration taking place in Mr Grey's mind.
True, but even the most deranged of killerz desirez to LIVE to kill again. Even if Sylar is completely out of it he wantz to live. Remember just because someone is crazy doesn't mean they're not smart. He has enough sanity to find and use the list and to find the other SG's and how to acquire their abilities. He's not crazy just misguided. What is a serial killer? Usually an individual on some sort of personal mission that is viewed through their eyes to help the world. Hitler believed that all, but one race belonged here so he put an action plan into play to "Purify" the world in his eyes. I believe that Sylar shares a similar belief. That not only by ridding the world of SG's will he help mankind in some sick way, but also that he is 'fixing' them by taking their ability. Remember, most SG's DON'T want to be special. He does. He told Dr. Suresh this himself. He sees their lack of gratitude for their gifts as a signal that they are broken. Remember in the episode when he found Brian? Before killing him, Brian made it abundantly clear that he did not want his gifts. That's when Sylar told him that he was just broken and that he could / would fix him. No one ever wondered why he said he was broken? It was because Brian expressed a distaste for the power he had. Sylar just assumes that the others will too and are therefore "BROKEN".
True.. Sylar could be viewing himself as a 'fixer of broken humans'. However, did Charlie ever express that she didn't want her power? Yet she was also killed by Sylar. This then becomes more escalated. Sure, at first he might have had a twisted thought that he was 'fixing' supers.. However, his tastes have grown, and now he just longs for the power and the rush it gives him.
This is classic of every serial killer profile out there. They start with one goal, and then that small goal just isn't enough, and they continue, and keep pushing their limits, eventually losing sight of the original goal, and running out of control.
Sylar's mind isn't stable, so there's no real way of predicting what he has in mind next, however, there is one given that we can expect from him. He's loose again, and he's hunting supers.. So that's what episode 12 is going to catch back up on (I assume). HRG did everyone a favor when he'd caught Sylar, but now we're looking at one pissed man who's bent on getting his way, and he now knows that there are a few out there that can beat or match his power. He's going to be a bit more cautious, and a tad more sneaky than he was in the earlier episodes.
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Theories on how Peter blows up NYC (and with what ability)
My attention is stuck on something. When Jessica shot DL, I thought that I saw DL get a head shot, but then he showed up with a single wound. I don't have the technical ability to review that. Could someone look at that and tell me if I was hallucinating?
I'm posting it here, because I haven't found any DL string.
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on how Peter blows up NYC (and with what abilit
Dogs wrote:
My attention is stuck on something. When Jessica shot DL, I thought that I saw DL get a head shot, but then he showed up with a single wound. I don't have the technical ability to review that. Could someone look at that and tell me if I was hallucinating?
I'm posting it here, because I haven't found any DL string.
The best thread to post this question would be the episode thread in the Season 1 Forum. However, you are correct that DL was shot once wounding him. He was shot again in the head, but because he was alerted by the first shot, he was able to let the bullet phase through him without causing injury.
Alright, this thread is about Peter and blowing up NY, but I just want to answer Jormengrund's question(ish) before moving on. Sylar isn't loose now, in the graphic novel for the episode he is caught again by HRG and the Haitian. He is now still in a holding cell...... minus his memory of Claire.
What I wanted to bring up, that occurred to me today while in a cab, is this: What if Peter's future scar is that of an unsuccessful Slyar-botomy? What if Sylar was in the process of opening up Peter's head, when Peter learned to control Slyar's powers and used them to stop him? If this is the case, then maybe Peter's future scar is a straight line, horizontally across his forehead...
OR
Peter goes into a comaish state at the end of ep11. Perhaps doctors find it necessary to perform some sort of 'life saving' brain surgery on him.... removing his power and giving him a visible scar.
True.. Sylar could be viewing himself as a 'fixer of broken humans'. However, did Charlie ever express that she didn't want her power? Yet she was also killed by Sylar. This then becomes more escalated. Sure, at first he might have had a twisted thought that he was 'fixing' supers.. However, his tastes have grown, and now he just longs for the power and the rush it gives him.
This is classic of every serial killer profile out there. They start with one goal, and then that small goal just isn't enough, and they continue, and keep pushing their limits, eventually losing sight of the original goal, and running out of control.
Sylar's mind isn't stable, so there's no real way of predicting what he has in mind next, however, there is one given that we can expect from him. He's loose again, and he's hunting supers.. So that's what episode 12 is going to catch back up on (I assume). HRG did everyone a favor when he'd caught Sylar, but now we're looking at one pissed man who's bent on getting his way, and he now knows that there are a few out there that can beat or match his power. He's going to be a bit more cautious, and a tad more sneaky than he was in the earlier episodes.
Great ideas folks!
"Sylar just assumes that the others will too and are therefore "BROKEN"."
Don't disregard this part of the statement which helps to explain Charlie's demise. Sylar is a lunatic like you said. I also agree that he is a very hungry killer. I like the idea that his original goals have changed. That's why he now NEEDS Claire Bennet's power. He is dying. A killer wants to live to kill again, right? Since he is degrading on a molecular level. He's sees her power as a way to stabilize himself. Pershaps even to live much longer than normal all the while becoming stronger and hungrier.
didnt hiro say something that his watch stays the same when he time travels?
Not sure on that one, but considering that he AND the watch are continuing from the point at which things began to change it makes sense that it would stay the same not to mention his brain, hair, clothing, shoes, or ANYTHING that he was holding. When he exists out of time so does everything else he has on him, including his watch. So yeah. I believe that if Tim Kring is doing his due diligence on the subject that he would know that.
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Remember?
Remember when he first traveled to NYC? When the cops were questioning him 'cause they thought he'd killed Isaac, they told him the date was November something, and he kept insisting it was sometime in October (pointing to his watch, which showed as much) 'til they showed him the newspaper (that showed Nathan Petrelli having won the election by a landslide)
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: Theories on how Peter blows up NYC (and with what ability)
I just saw something interesting, which is probably relevant. At the end of the last episode, Peter is asleep in his cell and Nathan comes to him, telling him he's not competent to save NYC. Nathan turns into Sylar while Peter is saying he wants to save NYC but doesn't think he can. Then Sylar says, "How can you? You don't know anything about power." So that's Peter's task. It's an intersting contrast with what we have already seen. That also makes Peter into a pivotal character (which we already knew because he is so cute, but that's a girl thing) It's also the task that many of the characters have, because they are clueless on how to deal. I think even jerky Nathan who is comfortable with political power is clueless on this new realm. Overall, if the characters can get a slight handle on the power thing this season, it would be cool.
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: Theories on how Peter blows up NYC (and with what ability)
Yes, it's interesting that only Peter and Hiro have a sense of mission. They have come more to grips with the meaning of their power, have more responsibility.
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