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hatcher · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: The Virus Vs. Arthur Petrelli

So, last season people lost their abilities because of a virus and regained them with an antidote. This season, people lose their abilities by coming in contact with Arthur Petrelli. This poses a few questions.

1. Is Arthur the origin of the virus from last season?

2. Is Arthur the basis on which "the formula" was engineered?

3. Is there an antidote for losing your ability to Arthur?

3b. Is "the formula" the antidote for losing your ability to Arthur?

4. If there is no "antidote," how is Peter going to get his ability back?

Ambience 327 · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject:

Interesting ideas. Let me share my thoughts:

1) Unlikely, but possible. I doubt that they just drew his blood and called it a "virus", but they could have used part of his genetic code to alter a virus into taking away a person's abilities. The fact that it also leads to death could have been an unintended side-effect of using a virus as the delivery tool, and possibly the reason why the project was scrapped.

2) Also an interesting concept. This might require the assumption that he could also bestow powers on others. I don't think he can just give people powers (or else why would they need the injections in the first place for Nathan, Niki, Tracy, Barbara and anyone else...?) It is possible though, that he might be able to take powers from one person, and place them in another person. (For example, take Daphne's Super Speed and give it to Knox, making him even more dangerous.) If so, then I could see them using his DNA as a basis for a working Power Granting Injection. (Mohindir started with Maya's DNA as his basis, but it turned out flawed in some way. Maybe they needed something a little closer to what they were trying to achieve to get it right?) Again, unlikely, but possible.

3) Some have theorised that killing (or just nullifying) Arthur might result in those he has stolen powers from getting them back. Who knows for sure?

3b) This is quite possible. We don't really know what Arthur does when he steals a power. Is he changing the person's DNA, or simply blocking out the ability? If the Injection put their DNA back in order, they might get their power back. It is also possible that they would end up with a different power - who knows?

4) Maybe he doesn't. Maybe this is the writers' way of getting rid of Peter's over-powered ability without killing him off. I hope not, but you never know.

Static · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject:

I think peter is very likely going to get his powers back as he came back from the future with his powers intact. which is supposidly after this has happened - unless this is part of the butterfly effect. Although I don't think f.peter did anything that could have caused or prevented Arthur comming back. Some have also theorized that this is where f.peter gets his scar.

hatcher · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:

Static · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject:

all f.peter did was shoot nathan tho didn't he? I justdont think he did anything which could have caused Arthur to come back that's all. I'm sure Arthur has been plannin a comeback for a while lol. F.peter said he didn't want to step on any more butterflies. So he couldn't tell p.peter about his father. And why would he if f.peter knew how it all worked out and that he got his powers back. It would be too big a thing to change.
All I was trying to say was that I can't see how f.peter caused this to happen jus by shootin nathan. And if this IS how he gets his scar, then this isn't something he caused to happen

Ambience 327 · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject:

Well, supposedly if Peter hadn't shot Nathan, then Claire wouldn't have been attacked by Sylar (at least according to Angela). That started a string of events that ended with Bob dead and Angela in control of the Company. It was Angela who sent Hiro and Ando to dig up Adam, who is the person Arthur used to heal himself and be up and ready for action again. If Hiro hadn't dug Adam up, it is possible that Arthur would still be bedridden and his plans come to nought.

So it is possible that Peter caused the "butterfly effect" that led to Arthur's current rise to power.

Static · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

Ok fair point, I can see how all that links up except for one part.... How did peter shooting nathan cause sylar to go after claire? Sylar has gone after her since the start (save the cheerleader, save the world and all that) it's only logical that he would have gone after her as soon as he got his abilities back

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[quote="hatcher"]
1. Is Arthur the origin of the virus from last season?
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It's called the Shanti Virus remember! The virus has something to do with Suresh's sister and that is where all the research began. They wouldn't call it the Shanti Virus if it came from Arthur. They'd call it the "A-Hole Virus" ......

dmnky88 · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject:

yea, mr. petrelli definitely isnt the origin of the virus. its called the shanti virus after all, and its mohinders blood that cures it!

interesting though about mr. petrelli being the basis of the formula, but again i dont think its right. only because mohinder was able to make a version of the formula too. but maybe the formula doesnt come out right without arthur's blood?

hatcher · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Re: The Virus Vs. Arthur Petrelli

Hidden_ability · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:55 am Post subject:

I think that the "Shanti virus" isnt really the same, but it could be another that the company or somebody else came up with to kill either peter, auther, clair, or sylar, (those with healing abilities), but when it dot out of hand they called it the shanti virus to keep the blame away from them. What do you guys think of that?
btw. im blaze, havnthad enough post to creat a thread yet tho