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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My thoughts exactly, Lavi It's all about strategy. I believe that Future Peter can take Future Sylar on. It's not going to be easy, of course, but he will still be able to overpower F. Sylar because he's probably learned to use his brains in battle.

HOWEVER, as for Present Peter, he's not quite up to par yet, so while Present Peter is PHYSICALLY more powerful than Sylar (in terms of the amount of abilities he possesses), Present Sylar knows how to fight and use his powers and his surroundings to his advantage. Peter just thinks he can run around as an invisible man in every battle and not get hurt. He's going to have to change that way of thinking.




Peter can stop time, sylar can't. How is that an evenly matched fight? Peter can regenerate, sylar can't. Peter can absorb any of Sylar's powers (proven to me on multiple occasions by ACTION), Sylar can't take any of Peter's. I think it boils down to the fact that ACTION (the perpetual correctionist) was right in saying that Peter is dumb, which is frustrating as hell to watch.....


Please read my wording again, Fourt - I never said that Sylar is more powerful than Peter. In FACT, I said that Peter IS more powerful than Sylar. However, there's a difference between who is "more powerful" and who is the "better fighter." Clearly, Peter is more powerful because of the fact that he can bend space/time and regenerate. However, Present Peter has never stopped time before, so without another meeting with Present Hiro, he may never KNOW HOW how to stop time, so let's not forget the fact that he's never seen Hiro do it before.

As of now, while Peter may be "more powerful," Sylar is the "better fighter." He's a really smart villain, and he's been able to develop strategy and tactics in his fighting (which includes how he uses his abilities/surroundings to his advantage) for the past six months. Peter has only been able to use his powers for a little over a month. Sure, he can heal and turn invisible - but until Peter learns how to really fight (like bada$$ Future Peter can) then chances are that Sylar will always be one step ahead in a battle.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In other words: it's sort of answering the question "Why bring a knife to a gun fight?" with "Because the guy with the gun is a horrible shot."
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Please read my wording again, Fourt - I never said that Sylar is more powerful than Peter. In FACT, I said that Peter IS more powerful than Sylar. However, there's a difference between who is "more powerful" and who is the "better fighter." Clearly, Peter is more powerful because of the fact that he can bend space/time and regenerate. However, Present Peter has never stopped time before, so without another meeting with Present Hiro, he may never KNOW HOW how to stop time, so let's not forget the fact that he's never seen Hiro do it before.

As of now, while Peter may be "more powerful," Sylar is the "better fighter." He's a really smart villain, and he's been able to develop strategy and tactics in his fighting (which includes how he uses his abilities/surroundings to his advantage) for the past six months. Peter has only been able to use his powers for a little over a month. Sure, he can heal and turn invisible - but until Peter learns how to really fight (like bada$$ Future Peter can) then chances are that Sylar will always be one step ahead in a battle.


Let's do some future theorizing then, since this is a future thread, both for the FUTURE that did happen in LOOP 2 and will happen again.

a) How will Peter and Hiro get out of the situation they are in the Graphic Novel 31? Will Peter's bada$$ kick a$$ with those super powered mutant freaks he's facing?

b) Future Question: At the conclusion of events this season will Peter go seek (AND FIND) Claude once again for more training? Why do I get the feeling that events will make it even more imperative for him to be trained in the use of his powers? Not to avoid a kablooie, but to use them to fight -- sort of like Professor Xavier's academy for gifted students.... (nah, that'd be like reaping-off more of that franchise....).
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just thought I'd bring this up. You know how everyone thinks: Why the hell doesn't peter just stop time against sylar? Maybe after the events of the bomb, Sylar munches on a brain that gives him a special power. If you read the most recent graphic novel, then you'll know that hiro and peter weren't able to stop time when they tried to break the prisoners free and were confronted by some heroes on the bad side of things. Peter asks why they can't stop time and hiro answers "one of them must be able to block it." After that they try to figure out which one is blocking it but it is never revealed. I was just thinking that since it had to be one of those 3, there's obviously people out there besides the hatian who can suppress time travel powers (and maybe more.) Now MAYBE sylar ended up taking one of these guys' powers later and became immune to time travel affecting him. Now I know in FYG F. Sylar is pretty close to P. Hiro when he uses tim travel to come back to the present, but maybe sylar wasn't concentrating, or it's just a huge whole in my theory. But, all i'm saying is....if this is true, then maybe sylar had it in FYG and it's possible he might gain this power anwyways...after the events of season 1.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Think, it just might be not only that you're right, but, events in FYG have more to do with what we're witnessing in our present....
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect there's nothing quite as valuable in a fight as a real willingness to do someone harm. Sylar has a clear advantage there in the present.

In the future, the ability Sylar got from Candice to make illusions would be very powerful, maybe as much as being able to stop time. But as I've said before, my money would still be on Peter. He probably has picked up way more abilities than Sylar. Sylar was having people brought to him, but Peter could have picked up dozens during just one night when he and Hiro did that jailbreak in the graphic novel. Peter has had years to accumulate and learn how to use them, and now he's avenging Nathan, too.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh trust me I definitely agree with you payquage. I'm just saying that it makes sense (if that's true,) why peter doesn't just stop time against sylar. That would be pretty cool and make him a lot more dangerous.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what worst beside stopping time? because peter gotten nikki super strength... therefore... if he stopped time and ripping his arm and leg out with bare hands doesn't matter if he already got clarie's power(remember before futuer sylar and future peter fights... he just aquired clarie's regeneration power)... because peter always knows how to encounter it(stab his head with something or cut his brain in half with hero sword or something)..... clarie power is to regenerate... not grow back a hand or leg with that amount of shot time plus he is frozen in time hehe
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