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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great stuff about Kane, but this thread is for our little buddy the Reoccurring Cockroach.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The little guy's supposed to make an appearance next episode in the "coffin" with Adam, so hopefully we'll have more to talk about after that. Does anyone have a list of each cockroach appearance compiled anywhere? This would be a good place for that. Maybe I'll do it when I get my first season on DVD.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got ot heroes wiki and search for cockroach
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey everyone, thanks for the welcome and the heads up. Sorry I brought up an old talked about subject. But the point I was trying to make, if it is even relevant, is not the correlation between Kensei and Kane, or even Kane and Anders, it is the idea that there is some new hero to be shown in Season 3. Even if this idea is "scrapped" with a hero controlling bugs, I'd highly doubt it. With the cockroachs appearing so frequently and at such key spots, there's obviously something to be looked at. Kring doesn't just throw in things for effect, reoccurances = foreshadowing. Remember the helix through all of season 1, it turned out to be Kensei's logo (or even of a higher power that has yet to be seen.) But on the whole, in my opinion the cockroach shouldn't be linked to any characters in the series at the moment, but instead on one to come sometime in the future....and I think I'm done with this subject matter at the moment... Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, he does just throw in things for effect-

The Roach, The Symbol, The Eclipse.

the roaches are just symbolism.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hardly call any of those things simply "effects." From day one, the symbol was used in spots, which we now know were left by Adam Monroe; examp: the sword, and possibly even the Hatian's necklace. And for the eclipse, we don't know as of yet its significance, as we hadn't known of the helix symbol's significance months ago. So, I'd hardly brush them off as used by Kring for mere visual pleasure. There's always more under the surface...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So here's a question:

Does anybody think that, in later seasons, the writers may take the 'cockroach' to a new level and have it represent something more than just symbolism (Like a roach/insect controlling ability)? Or would that not work for the show...?

I dunno how I feel on it - the roach COULD be given a greater role, but I wouldn't want it to feel forced as if the writers are out of ideas or anything.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really wouldn't call it "out of ideas." If they have had this cockroach thing around from the very beginning, they've probably had some thoughts of where it would go. I doubt it would be something they just added last minute because they've run out of ideas. In a comic book world, the possibilities are seemingly endless...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hate to keep repeating the other pages of this thread, BUT...

it was confirmed by the writers AND KRING that the roach is symbolism.

COULD they change that? Of course, but for now its a symbol as is the eclipse and so forth.


IMO (for now):

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Hahahahah "[/thread]"

This thread is over.

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I know the writers have confirmed that it's symbolism right now. But my question was that if they change their minds, do you think they could (1) make it believable, and (2) would you like it.
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1. no

2. no
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here comes ULURU.....!

Then again, maybe that's what the show lacks....


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it has been said yet, but it is popularly suggested that cockroaches will inherit the earth if humans were to destroy themselves in a nuclear blast. Cockroaches do have a higher radiation resistance than vertebrates, with the lethal dose perhaps 6 to 15 times that of humans. [Note: Although the common fruit fly has an even higher tolerance, the cockroach seems to be the invertebrate of popular choice.] At any rate, I just thought I would throw out the connection of the two, as both seem to be reoccurring overtones for this series.
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suprmn7 wrote:
I don't know if it has been said yet, but it is popularly suggested that cockroaches will inherit the earth if humans were to destroy themselves in a nuclear blast. Cockroaches do have a higher radiation resistance than vertebrates, with the lethal dose perhaps 6 to 15 times that of humans. [Note: Although the common fruit fly has an even higher tolerance, the cockroach seems to be the invertebrate of popular choice.] At any rate, I just thought I would throw out the connection of the two, as both seem to be reoccurring overtones for this series.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Action Figure wrote:
actually, he does just throw in things for effect-

The Roach, The Symbol, The Eclipse.

the roaches are just symbolism.


well both the symbol and the eclipse have turned out to be more than symbolism, we might see the roach become more important in the next season.
but personally i think your right, its just symbolism.
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