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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Issac sees the future when in an induced trance. I think as of now the only way he knows how to enter the trance is though Heroine use. This Indian Yogi Meditative trances. As he sobers up and gets help from the other heros, I forsee Peter telling the future untill Issac learns other methods if inducing trance.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: HIROINE:) Reply with quote

HIRO-SAN wrote:
AND Isaac is the one Hiro came to at the end of this ep.


What? Hiro went to Nathan not Isaac. Did I miss something here?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction, Hiro went to Peter, Nathan's brother.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: ONLY WHEN HIGH? Reply with quote

Yes...
It's almost like Isaac has to "overdose" himself and be officially unconscious in order for his powers to take hold of him. Interesting.....
I believe THAT is the only way that Isaac's powers can exist. He has to "blackout" or become unconscious, or OUTSIDE of himself to tell the future. What pisses me off is that his girl Simeon (spelling) is a HATER and wont support his special gift. Not the drugs but the paintings....Comments?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: ONLY WHEN HIGH? Reply with quote

HIRO-SAN wrote:
What pisses me off is that his girl Simeon (spelling) is a HATER and wont support his special gift. Not the drugs but the paintings....Comments?


Once she starts to realize that Peter has powers and that Isaac was right and not crazy, how will she live with that? Issac is being selfless by harming himself to save the city from the nuke, and it will be interesting to see how Simone reacts to this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: ONLY WHEN HIGH? Reply with quote

SuperHiro wrote:
HIRO-SAN wrote:
What pisses me off is that his girl Simeon (spelling) is a HATER and wont support his special gift. Not the drugs but the paintings....Comments?


Once she starts to realize that Peter has powers and that Isaac was right and not crazy, how will she live with that? Issac is being selfless by harming himself to save the city from the nuke, and it will be interesting to see how Simone reacts to this.


Well...he probably sort of WANTS to shoot up anyway...cause he's an addict
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: ONLY WHEN HIGH? Reply with quote

Erden wrote:
SuperHiro wrote:
HIRO-SAN wrote:
What pisses me off is that his girl Simeon (spelling) is a HATER and wont support his special gift. Not the drugs but the paintings....Comments?


Once she starts to realize that Peter has powers and that Isaac was right and not crazy, how will she live with that? Issac is being selfless by harming himself to save the city from the nuke, and it will be interesting to see how Simone reacts to this.


Well...he probably sort of WANTS to shoot up anyway...cause he's an addict


of course he does it for addiction purposes. I mean honestly I wouldnt wanna see myself dead on paper because its fun then to only die later on the same way my art depicts it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the Indian days they had Seers that saw the future. They sat in their tents and smoked Opium. They saw visions in the fire and smoke. This is Isaac's Opium....to clear his mind and to let the visions come through.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buddy737 wrote:
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In the Indian days they had Seers that saw the future. They sat in their tents and smoked Opium. They saw visions in the fire and smoke. This is Isaac's Opium....to clear his mind and to let the visions come through.


but the seers were in meditative state, not vegitative state. Which is what Isaac is technically when he "sees". the power is what overwhelms him into motion.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe if he wasnt off his nut on drugs he might be able to interpret the future in abetter method that painting. Don't get me wrong the pics are waaay cool but can't see him doing the whole self-destructive much longer.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I bet he thinks he has to be high for it to work. I bet the gift is there and he is relying on the drugs. Wasnt he already a user?


Studies have shown that even after as few as two correlations, people will begin to assume causality. It's a side effect of our ability to determine causality when it is present.

He predicted the future while painting while using, he hasn't predicted the future while not using (because he's using every day), so it was very natural to conclude that using allows him to paint the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesn't matter when he works through Peter =P
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Isaac can see the future without using drugs...but I think that because of the effects that heroine has on the brain it is allowing Isaac to access his powers faster than he should. (i.e. steroid use) I think that over time he could use his powers with out the use of drugs, but it will take him awhile to figure out how to "turn on" his power by himself.
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