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Novel 18: How do you stop an exploding man, Part II
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Novel 18: How do you stop an exploding man, Part II Reply with quote

Ted is captured by a military-looking group that hoses him down with liquid concrete. Ted escapes by exploding the concrete and goes in search of the 2 needle weapon. He discoveres where it is made and what its purpose is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I havent read it but my guess is that it injects a raioactive isotope and helps track them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHustonM wrote:
Now I havent read it but my guess is that it injects a raioactive isotope and helps track them.
wow thats close
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, I totally called the tracking implant. So is it a localized implant, or is the isotope in their whole body? In other words, can you remove it so you can't be tracked?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the isotope is part of a larger molecule that is something used by the body's cells, it could be in someone's body for a while (wild guess, a few weeks). It might not be evenly distributed if it's something some cells use more than others.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking a radioactive isotope? What's the half-life, if so?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have links to information about half-lives of radioactive isotopes. I found out that the isotope does not have to be radioactive if it is used for tracking.

To track people marked with the isotopes, I'm fairly sure they would have to be collecting tissue samples from the general population to see when and where their subjects pop up. Since I think Chandra Suresh had to have access to many tissue samples to generate his list, maybe someone organized a program to collect thousands or millions of tissue samples and gives out information to university professors and secret organizations.

For radioactive isotopes, the half-life in a person depends on what compound the isotope is a part of and how fast the body can get rid of it. Most information I found is for medical imaging, for which you want a half-life of just a few hours. I speculate that you would need a tissue sample to determine whether someone has the isotope in them, (EDIT) or get close to them with some imaging equipment (END EDIT), unless you're going to give such a high dose that they're dying or contaminating their surroundings.

For stable isotopes, scientists can compare concentrations of various isotopes to get a sort of a profile from a tissue sample, and that profile can be matched to a geographic region and other information (like diet). They have given stable isotopes to monarch butterflies to track migration and analyzed dead butterflies at their winter range to find out what proportion came from the place where they gave isotopes to the butterflies. I think half-life matters less with this, because it's used for things like diet - the subject keeps taking the material in - or things that are incorporated into teeth and bones.

Stable isotopes tracking migration:
- monarch butterflies - http://whyfiles.org/083isotope/2.html
- shore birds - http://www.mesc.usgs.gov/resources/spotlight/shorebird_isotopes/
- general birds - http://scienceweek.com/2002/sw020607.htm
- general animals - http://www.iso-analytical.com/tissue.html

Stable isotopes for anthropology:
http://archaeology.about.com/od/stableisotopes/a/si_intro.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotope_analysis

I found web sites listing half-lives of several elements:
http://www.iem-inc.com/toolhalf.html
http://www.unh.edu/ehs/radsafety/Half-Life.html
Half-lives of elements range from fractions of a second to basically forever.

From http://www.ansto.gov.au/ari/brochures_misc/Isotopes.pdf
Pages 10 and 13 have a list of commonly used radioisotopes and their half-lives. I don't know if the biological half-life is taken into account. Page 14 has a list of other isotopes used for other scientific measurements.

http://www.uvm.edu/~lizzo/NMT-51-2000/pharmacy.htm towards the end has a list of different radiopharmaceuticals and what part of the body they target, but not half-lives.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flapjacks wrote:
BHustonM wrote:
Now I havent read it but my guess is that it injects a raioactive isotope and helps track them.
wow thats close


Guessed from what I saw at primatechpaper.com in Hana's file
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we are talking radioactive, then? Why wouldn't it make them sick?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't have to be radioactive. But if it's not, HRG has to have a way to collect physical samples from people to find out where they went later. If it is, I think you would still need physical samples or a scanner. Also, if it is radioactive, the radioactivity would wear off, although HRG is unethical enough not to be concerned about the subjects' health, so he might give a larger dose or use something that lasts longer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It surely wouldn't hurt Ted. As for everyone else . . . . Is having a tail a superpower?
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stonegroove007 wrote:
It surely wouldn't hurt Ted. As for everyone else . . . . Is having a tail a superpower?


No, but it is super cool club
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, again with the lack of Easter eggs!!! mad
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jjafargi wrote:
Bah, again with the lack of Easter eggs!!! mad


Agreed, no Easter Eggs in the past several graphic novels.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not even Easter, guys . . . .
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