I think the more general mass of knowledge Matt accumulates the more his actual intelligence and control and skill over the knowledge will grow. Example: Say he reads every theory about astro-physics and time travel. With all this information, he builds his own theory which ends up being a working science fact. Therefore he builds a device to travel through time. So, this is how he can become potentially dangerous, accumulated knowledge becomes advanced thought processes. He can already recall any information at lightning speed, its only a matter of time before he starts to use it the right way...
Isn't that just another explanation for intuitive aptitude? A hero with either power would know "how things work"
No, from what we've seen of intuitive aptitude, Sylar knows how things work, and can fix them. It doesn't take much knowledge to know how the systems work...it actually might not even be a power...remember when Dr. Suresh examined Sylar, and he didn't have any signs of being an evolved human. His abilities could have been developed throughout his whole life being couped up in that clock shop. But we don't know much about the power so its hard to guess...
Matt's ability is enhanced memory. Read up on it a little on it before you make assumptions.
Nice thought, Fourtwenesh! I like the similarities you've pointed out between these two different abilities. It's like Sylar being able to "fly" (levitate) with TK, when we know that he doesn't have flight. Seemlingly almost the same abilities... but not... heh
I do like the theory somewhat, VeryBadOmen, but the only problem I have with Matt accumulating knowledge and making his own theories, etc, is that in the case with time-travel, nobody knows how to do it yet in a man-made manner (in the real world, and on the show). The only reason Hiro can do it is because that is his gift. Reading all of the books in the world will give you many opinions and thoughts about how one could possibly one day time travel, but if scientists haven't figured it out yet, then I'd say that Matt wouldn't be able to figure it out either.
Popkorn I'm sorry you took that time travel thing to heart. I was merely making an example, it wasn't supposed to be something I thought would happen. I just wanted to make a point.
But seeing as someone like Charlie and Matt can learn things incredibly fast, and then build on that knowledge, such as when Charlie says "I love you" in Japanese, etc. If this is the case, the possibilities are endless. Give them an inch and they will take a mile, so to speak.
So, if you really want to think into the whole making things outside regular human possibility a.e. time travel, breaking speed of light, etc. Matt could quickly memorize every theory, then compile and incorporate them together. After that, he would build on the existing theories perhaps making a working one. After all this is SCIENCE FICTION, you sometimes think of things too logically in a highly illogical world Popkorn haha.
So, if you really want to think into the whole making things outside regular human possibility a.e. time travel, breaking speed of light, etc. Matt could quickly memorize every theory, then compile and incorporate them together. After that, he would build on the existing theories perhaps making a working one. After all this is SCIENCE FICTION, you sometimes think of things too logically in a highly illogical world Popkorn haha.
I suppose that while my theories may be incredibly ridiculous at times, the reason I have been trying to think more logically during Season 2 (as opposed to some of my crazy theories in Season 1) is because of something Action reminded us of a few months ago, and that was the show's main premise:
"Ordinary people discovering extraordinary abilities."
When it comes down to it, I think that this is the most important factor that draws audiences into the show - the fact that aside from the powers on the show, everything (including the characters) seem ordinary in an ordinary world - in a world that could very well be our own during the present timeline. I think that Neuenberg using knowledge to physically create weapons, etc, would be very feasible for the show. However, while I didn't mean to single out time travel, I personally think that if Neuenberg were to create something that goes out of bounds from what we can do today as a human race (I'm not just talking about time travel, I'm talking about anything), then it goes from a show about an "ordinary" world to a show about a not-so-ordinary world. Something like that would change it from "Heroes" to "Star Trek" in my opinion (solely regarding the technological advances in each show).
I'm not sure if this makes much sense, but I just think anything that Matt Neurenberg does/creates has to remain within the confines of an "ordinary world," and when I think or "ordinary world," I think of the day and age in which we live right now.
I personally think that if Neuenberg were to create something that goes out of bounds from what we can do today as a human race (I'm not just talking about time travel, I'm talking about anything), then it goes from a show about an "ordinary" world to a show about a not-so-ordinary world. Something like that would change it from "Heroes" to "Star Trek" in my opinion (solely regarding the technological advances in each show
You aren't making any sense....
This is a show about completely extraordinary things, PERIOD. When they say ordinary people, they mean ordinary people socially, not mentally or physically. Unlike most sci-fi, the Heroes creators have made the show dramatically based, instead of solely on special effects and crazy story lines. The show depicts real world human situations and characters, but when it comes to the super-powers thats where the real ends and the sci-fi begins.
And when we are talking about technology what about all the people who have abilities that control the technology. Such as Micah "talking" to computers and stoplights, and Hana being dead but talking through the internet. Hiro travels through time and space, how much more Star Trek can we get.
There would be no reason for the writers to keep one person's power within specified boundaries of current laws of the universe, while everything else runs a muck in complete science-fiction, that would be completely ridiculous. It would be cheating the character and the fans.
If Matt is "uploaded" with every bit of information in the world, including secret files from the Company, like is being shown in the spoiler for the next GN, Matt will have endless possibilities for doing and making pretty much anything he wanted to. He could probably build a spaceship or bio-engineer a new virus.
So, don't say things need to make sense with one character when we have others that can produce fire and fly through the air...
The show depicts real world human situations and characters, but when it comes to the super-powers thats where the real ends and the sci-fi begins.
VeryBadOmen wrote:
So, don't say things need to make sense with one character when we have others that can produce fire and fly through the air...
Popkorn615 wrote:
When it comes down to it, I think that this is the most important factor that draws audiences into the show - the fact that aside from the powers on the show, everything (including the characters) seem ordinary in an ordinary world
I specifically said "aside from powers on the show"
I'm referring to man-made things, since that's what Neuenberg would be doing with all of his knowledge - for example, a time travel machine (again, I'm not singling time travel out, I just can't think of a better example right now). I don't think they would go the route of introducing man-made things like that onto the show because they are not possible in this day and age, and IMO, I don't think that a guy with eidetic memory will be able to create these. I'm not saying it's not going to happen as a forcible fact - I just don't think it will. And it's just my opinion - I'm entitled to that.
I don't know much about Star Trek (so correct me if I am wrong), but am I wrong to think that the earthlings on the show didn't possess special abilities? It was man-made technogical advances that allowed them to travel into deep space. And I say 'earthlings' because I know there were different races of 'aliens' on the show. Maybe on Star Trek, the aliens could do different things, but could Captain Kirk do anything special? While Matt Neuenberg might one day be able to create something like a space ship, that would introduce the possibility of aliens, and in my opinion, that's a route I definitely do not thing the writers will go in for the show. It would open up a whole new can of worms, and "Heroes" would probably lose a lot of fans.
i just stumbled on the thread, read it from the beginning. the people with the "supermemory" or what have you= SUPER MEMORY thats it...the reason charlie was able to know the japanese and say whatever to hiro, wasnt because she read SOME, and then put the pieces together fast. basically...if she didnt read the phrase at some point, she didnt know it. PERIOD...
basically what im saying is, you arent going to "give them an inch, they get a mile" you give them a mile..they get a mile. i kinda love this theory, about how sylar will have this ability already, and as he really "is no threat" sylar will need all the help he can get...
and yes, "ordinary people" gosh i wish i could go back and comment on EVERYTHING but thats just my 2 cents for now
I am not hating the idea of this "memory" power expanding just like, say, Matt's power. That was one of the big deals on this season, showing that these powers can and will get bigger than that initial showing. I had a brief flash that maybe this memory thing and Parkman's power would be related... but Parkman's a dingus, so scratch that notion. My only problem is that i can't figure how this power would expand.... Here's a wild one, maybe he could touch other people and access THEIR memory? How coolz would that be? HE WILL EVENTUALLY REMEMBER HIS PAST LIVES, HENCE FUELING HIS MADNESS AND EVIL GENIUS-I-TUDE!!! Kinda seems like the show is falling into the whole power category types we saw in Xmen, I guess. There's your category one types, then there's your Phoenix types. I think it'd be kinda weak to do that though...... Any thoughts on how this memory power could go "next-level"?
The new teaser of the next GN shows Matt being downloaded with endless information Matrix-style. Now, we know how things like this happen in most Sci-fi. The clueless person or robot downloads all the history of mankind and sees all the suffering that is caused through wars and evil. Then they end up really mental. So I think Matt will be downloaded with all this information and end up a crazed maniac hopped up on all the information a sociopath would need to cause trouble. Heres to Matt becoming the next Joker...
Here's a wild one, maybe he could touch other people and access THEIR memory? How coolz would that be? HE WILL EVENTUALLY REMEMBER HIS PAST LIVES, HENCE FUELING HIS MADNESS AND EVIL GENIUS-I-TUDE!!! Kinda seems like the show is falling into the whole power category types we saw in Xmen, I guess. There's your category one types, then there's your Phoenix types. I think it'd be kinda weak to do that though...... Any thoughts on how this memory power could go "next-level"?
That's an awecome theory, Stone! It'd be sorta like Bruce Willis in the movie Unbreakable. I like!
I guess my thoughts about the development of eidetic memory is what VeryBadOmen has been saying, but not to the full-extent. I could definitely see Matt becoming the 'brains' of
Sylar's legion (that is, if it's even Sylar's legion to begin with... who knows, maybe it's Knox's legion?)...
VeryBadOmen wrote:
So I think Matt will be downloaded with all this information and end up a crazed maniac hopped up on all the information a sociopath would need to cause trouble.
I'm very happy that there's a finally a possibility of a Season 1 ability being used much more so than it had actually been used in Season 1. Yatta!
Woohoo - part of my theory is almost confirmed (the fact that Matt isn't just a random character, and that they could potentially be introducing him into the series itself). Maybe that really IS him two seconds into the "Villains" preview
Definitely this whole uber download into his brain is not going to be "good" for him.... I could definitely see it pushing him over the psychotic edge.....
I still highly doubt that the guy in the Heroes preview is Matt. Why would Matt ever say "you can't hurt me." It just doesn't make any sense. The only reason he couldn't might be a reference to Elle protecting him. Otherwise, very unlikely.
Hmm I wonder what all the information is on the database. Probably information on every evolved human encountered by the Company. With all this, Matt will know all the weaknesses of them. But, seeing him in this comic with all the computer monitors, Matt looked more like a common super-hero hacker. He reminds me a lot of Barbara Gordon when she becomes Oracle, photographic memory and all. Even without the use of her legs, she was still a force to be reckoned with. So looks like Matt will be "oracle" of the Heroes universe: The Keyboard Samurai!
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