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Nostradamus · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: If Sylar killed Peter....

If Sylar were to kill Peter somehow; and brain-picked em' for his abilities...

Would Sylar aquire all of Peter's aquired abilities? or just his Peter's base ability to aquire the powers of others without having to kill them?

And furthermore... if Peter has both Claire's and Adam's regerative ability (both Claire and Adam have told Peter on several occasions that he can "do what they do") then why can Peter not use his own blood to heal Nathan?

I mean, Peter was dead for hours before Claire pulled the glass out of his head in season 1; so obviously Peter's blood can bring Peter back to life; and if it's an unconscious act like it is for Claire (they don't will themselves back to life, their body chemistry does that for them) then Peter's blood should bring Nathan back, even if he actually does die up there on the podium from gunshots. And we've seen that Claire's healing power just pushes the bullets back out (Maya for example)

HRG was long past dead; his eyes were gray when Claire's blood revived him; so if Peter doesn't at least TRY it with his own blood, and we just see Nathan's funeral next volume... than Peter obviously doesn't care about his brother; or he's just an idiot.

Writer's strike eh? just as well, seems like the writers were overlooking all the inticate details they established themselves; so perhaps vol 3 should hire writers with a little more appreciation for details.

votepetrelli92 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject:

That is an incredible theory rock on!!!!!!!!!!!

deftonesdea · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject:

eh, i dont think its THAT fantastic of a theory..i for one think

peter didnt even KNOW blood could heal people...that being said...he can "do what others can do" etc but...once the blood leaves his body...can it still heal? maybe

nathan can pretty much be brought back to life or not, depending on what the writers want...peter can (if he's met linderman)

a- heal nathan
b- go back a few moments in time and stop it
c- use his blood to heal him
d- go find claire/dig up kensai to bring him back

so..its up to the writers

i for one have theorized that sylar might defeat peter in FYG, and thus gain time travel or...defeat peter, go to the dead future hiro, and take his ability this gain time travel anyway

oh..and as for sylar taking peter's ability...i think he'd gain emathic mimicry (mayyyybe, it might be that because of peter's compassion he can only do it or something) he'd gain that, and all of peters OTHER abilities as well...

when sylar first saw peter heal, then go invisible he was like "i cant WAIT to try that one" now..he might have been mistaken. but i think sylar kinda knew he'd gain those abilities as well...we'll see =]

Ambience 327 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:

Actually, Peter is well aware that the blood of a regenerator has healing properties - since he saw adam put his own blood into Nathan's IV, then watched Nathan heal.

As far as whether Sylar would gain all of Peter's powers or not, we can't really know that unless it happens, can we? Sylar could have just assumed that he would get anything Peter had - or maybe just hoped - but it is possible that he would not be able to since we don't really know for sure how Peter's power works.

For instance - does Peter's power alter his own DNA the way Sylar alters his DNA when he steals a power? If so, then Sylar would probably get anything Peter had, if not he probably wouldn't.

Blufyre77 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject:

I'm pretty sure that Peter's power really includes the powers he has acquired , because i think that his body automatically re-manifests itself into the abilities of the people he meets. Sylar, however, just knows how to figure out why that person has that power by examining their brain and then, since he has basically complete knowledge about his own genetic marker, he can actively use it to emulate their power. I'm not sure how he manages to display multiple powers at once, (ie Future Sylar as Pres. Petrelli flying while looking like Nathan) but he has. Sylar would be able to take all of Peter's powers, since they are all stacked up inside his brain. Sylar's powers, though, I think would be taken if his memory was wiped (not his base power, just acquired ones) because his ability requires knowledge of the "gifted" brain. I'm pretty sure that's the best explanation I can come up with just about now.

Frying_Man · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

It seems to me that EITHER:

1) Peter's DNA/physical manifestation/whatever changes when he comes near a Hero, in which case, his blood has healing powers, and Sylar would be able to find traces in Peter's dead body of all of the things that Peter can do;

OR

2) Peter's blood does NOT have healing powers, and Sylar will NOT get anything more than the mimic ability.

Blufyre77 · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:48 am Post subject:

Yeah, it is probably linked that, and it makes sense. I think that it would be the former, as I think Peter's blood really kind of has to have healing abilities since that is part of Claire/Adam's power. Peter has shown that his abilities do not depend on memories, so they must exist in his DNA. I guess Sylar could be either way, I don't know if there has been any clarifying details yet.

the voice of reason · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:31 am Post subject:

Jormengrund · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject:

Meh.

I'd say that Peter's ability is the mimicry power. I don't think that the powers he's absorbed would transfer. Thus, Sylar would gain the ability to absorb powers around his presence, negating his need to hack and slash skulls. However, he wouldn't gain the abilities that Peter currently has access to.

That's just my twocents

anyway..

Payquage · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject:

Because Peter saw Adam use his blood to heal Nathan, I expect him to at least TRY it on Nathan, if Nathan is dying or dead. On the other hand, (bringing up one of my old peeves) it didn't occur to Peter to perform CPR on someone who had just lost her pulse. How the heck did he pass his licensing exam as a nurse? (I didn't really want Simone to survive, but I guess the writers decided it would be more graceful to have her die without anyone trying to save her.)

OK, my new idea is that maybe someone can only be saved by a blood injection from someone like Claire, Adam, or Peter one time. There might be a way to blame that on the immune system (first exposure sensitizes the system to the next exposure, causing a reponse that wasn't present the first time). Come to think of it, there wasn't any concern about blood types, either...

Sikorsky · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject:

If Sylar killed Peter... I think he would get all his powers, though only be able to use the ones he knows about. Then again, he might know about all of them when he gets them, what with his intuitive aptitude and all.

Yeah, the writers have definitely NOT thought all of this through. They leave several plotholes and gaps, but I guess that's partly why we make theories, eh?

But they couldn't get rid of Nathan - Peter's character wouldn't be complete without him. Besides, he's an important character in his own rigth as well. He'll be brought back to life, possibly with Peter's blood, or Claire's. Here's hoping it's Peter's!

Jormengrund · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

stonegroove007 · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject:

I agree, Jorm. The whole healing thing isn't Peter's true power... so i don't think it'd work.... but THEN.... 'Splain how he regened when that humongo shard O' glass was removed from his brain? If he was dead, he didn't have to turn it "on", he COULDN'T he was DEAD. That implies that yes, it is a part of him now, so yes, it is an innate ability to his body or whatever. SEE HE SIT ON THE FENCE IN CONFUSION.

Blufyre77 · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:37 am Post subject:

He certainly sit on fence in confusion. As I said in some way before, I think that Peter's power can be explained as:
When Peter's power detects "gifted" people in range, it adapts Peter's DNA to accommodate the new power.

And another possibility:
When Peter's power detects a power it can gain, it stores it in Peter's memory until he decides (or accidentally starts) to use it. This explains why he continues to be a n00b after he has met Sylar; Sylar's powers would do a great deal to cancel out Peter's naivete, so perhaps he has just not plugged them in to his DNA yet. It probably requires some form of expertise Peter does not yet have to take the powers back out of use and into the file cabinet.

Claude said that Peter's power was like a file cabinet, and here it is:
He copies peoples "files" (powers) when he is near, then activates them by pulling them out of the file cabinet and therefore has >1 power at once. He then puts them back when he is done, and it seems that Peter has not yet learned how to do this (typical Peter,"te files wont fit, tey is pointing da wrong way" lol

).

Since people's powers are their "files", they are in use as long as they are out, meaning there really is no difference between an original and acquired power for Peter. However, no one else but Sylar can do this because those people don't have a file cabinet. Darned furniture is so expensive nowadays Razz

.

stonegroove007 · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject:

But that still doesn't cover how he immediately regenerated when the shard o' glass was removed from his brain... he was dead, so there was no "accessing" the "file" for that particular power..... Some powers must just be "on" automatically once acquired.. hell, they prolly all are, but it takes recognition and practice to exercise them....