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popkorn615 · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

Yeah... I'm going to go along with Acid and Stone on this one. Future Hiro seems dark as a result of the "desperate times" that he lives in, as opposed to him actually turning to the 'dark side.' His appearance reflects the future in which he inhabits. To me, it looks like Future Hiro is a changed man... and I don't mean to assume this just because he may go through training as a samurai. Instead, his eyes looked to be filled with the crying souls of those who he's witnessed die at the hands of Sylar.
In episode 5, let's recall the conversation between him and Peter:
Future Hiro: "It's the only way to prevent it."
Peter: "Prevent what?"
Future Hiro: "...everything."

In that moment, by Hiro's facial expression, it looks as if he has lost Charlie for a second time... so desperate and heartbreaking.

Thoughts?

P.S. Here's a new theory... what if Ando dies...
...in the past. Meaning, Ando goes to Feudal Japan with Hiro and perishes there.

AcidTWister · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:03 am Post subject:

It's possible. I was thinking it was the other way around though.

Hidden because PK hid his.
Hiro leaves Ando behind as he goes out to collect heroes, like Molly Walker, one day. To his dismay, Sylar comes to their hideout looking for Hiro, and instead, runs across Ando. The result is not a very pretty one when Hiro returns to find his friend held against the wall by multiple sharp objects.

Jormengrund · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:

There could also be the explanation of Hiro starting to follow the ways of Bushido. If Hiro decides to designate a benefactor, such as Linderman, then in true samurai fashion he'd follow the orders given to him regardless of his personal feelings. Thus, if he were to be following the orders of Linderman, he'd go back to Peter on the subway, and start a chain reaction that will end with NYC blowing sky high.

After this moral dilemma is followed through, Hiro would then have the option to absolve himself through Hara-Kiri, but only after his mission was completed.

We've all speculated that he went back in time to become Kenasi, but what if he brings back more than just the physical training? What if he becomes the mindless machine that the samurai were back then? They went and did what was asked, no questions asked, no answers given. if Hiro turns out to be like that, we my very well be looking at quite the plot twist here..

popkorn615 · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:

popkorn615 · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject:

popkorn615 · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:11 am Post subject:

Going back to my idea about Claire possessing the DNA to create a cure (which is why Future Hiro may need her alive)... I just rewatched all 18 episodes the past couple of days, and in about two or three instances, creating a "cure" and "inhibitor" was directly suggested/mentioned. In addition, I think there have been a significant number of signs that are telling us this is definitely a possibility.

1) When Nathan and Mohinder are speaking in Mohinder's apartment (I think either episode 13 or 14), Mohinder mentions something along these lines in regards to finding/studying Peter.

2) Mohinder tells "Zane" (Sylar) that he is working on an inhibitor to isolate the genetic anomaly (when they are outside of the motel).

3) When HRG is showing Ted his file in the Bennet home, just before Thompson shoots Ted, HRG tells Ted that there is no cure (thus, maybe hinting to the fact that they are trying to create one?).

4) HRG said to Thompson himself (14 years ago) that people are fragile and they wouldn't be able to handle all of these specials running around (and what better way than to cure all of these special people so that there are only normal humans in the world).

5) Nathan says to Peter (in the family brunch episode) something like, "What do you think people would do if they'd find out? They'd lock us up and throw away the key" (something like that - and what better way to stop this from happening than to create a cure).

6) In Nathan's office, he says to Simone that if the public were to find out, they'd probably have all of the specials locked up in some laboratory on a deserted island.

7) When Claire is speaking to Zach by her locker, she tells him that if she were to reveal her power to anybody, it would narrow her social status down to either "freak or guinea pig."

I may be missing a couple, but these are the ones that I could come up with off the top of my head.

What does everybody think?

Alucard · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject:

I totally see what you're saying popkorn i've thought about a cure becoming a big part of the show too. And i think it's coming...really. But I don't know if you've ever seen xmen 3 but i can't help but hope it is nothing like that seeing as it's been done before. If they do find a cure i hope it doesn't become the basis of what the heroes are fighting against cuz that's....well...it was just used in xmen 3 like i said. But i wouldn't be surprised. And IMO if they do realize that it's one of the heroes that posseses the potential for a cure then I would definitely go with claire, sylar, or peter. Sylar or claire seems most likely to me because mohinder could already unlock certain things using sylar's dna....a cure may be possible. But if claire had it it would make total sense because that would totally justify save the cheeleader, save the world. and maybe the cure is the only way they can beat sylar.....going a little off topic...sorry.

Alucard · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject:

I totally see what you're saying popkorn i've thought about a cure becoming a big part of the show too. And i think it's coming...really. But I don't know if you've ever seen xmen 3 but i can't help but hope it is nothing like that seeing as it's been done before. If they do find a cure i hope it doesn't become the basis of what the heroes are fighting against cuz that's....well...it was just used in xmen 3 like i said. But i wouldn't be surprised. And IMO if they do realize that it's one of the heroes that posseses the potential for a cure then I would definitely go with claire, sylar, or peter. Sylar or claire seems most likely to me because mohinder could already unlock certain things using sylar's dna....a cure may be possible. But if claire had it it would make total sense because that would totally justify save the cheeleader, save the world. and maybe the cure is the only way they can beat sylar.....going a little off topic...sorry.

popkorn615 · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

Jormengrund · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject:

Actually Popkorn. Can you imagine if they were to be able to create a serum of Claire's that would be like a healing booster to those that received it?

Think on this:

A man is diagnosed with an inoperable cancer, and is given three weeks to live, unless he agrees to let them try a new genetic injection therapy. The doctors inject him with Claire's serum, and the genetic healing process then goes to work destroying the cancer cells, and regenerating the live tissue. From three weeks to full regression in one easy injection step!

Maybe that is why HRG was so adamant about keeping her abilities a secret? Because he knew that they weren't necessarily looking for a "cure" for the evolved humans, but some kind of advanced stem cell research for super soldiers, and medical advances at the cost of just a few "special" individuals.

Could this be what the Company is all about? Cellular research but at the cost of an evolved human life?

popkorn615 · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

pjamese3 · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:20 am Post subject:

pjamese3 · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: time travel

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pjamese3 · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: Charlie's death