another thing is that nobody would be able to do that because he would probably cause some crazy ass black hole or something. Since hiro can stop time and move around, you could say that he's moving faster than the speed of light, but light can only travel so fast because it has no mass. Needless to say, hiro is an entity that contains mass and anything moving that fast could have a catastrophic outcome.
That being said...
It's a friggin TV show based off ideas from comic books, you know, not real.
Not sure if someone mentioned this somewhere else, but I'm sure its pretty obvious why Hiro carries a sword:
1. Swords kick ass
2. Hiro thinks swords kick ass
3. Guns wouldn't work for some reason
Also, has anyone noticed the heads being sliced through look very clean and reminiscent of a large blade's cut (a sword)? This turns so many things on its head for me.
The second poker scene blows the "guns wouldn't work" theory out of the water.
The "guns wouldn't work" theory hinges on the assumption that you can't impart momentum to an object while time is stopped, i.e. if Hiro throws a ball or fires a bullet, once that object leaves his sphere of influence it will remain stationary, and when time starts again it will simply drop to the ground. However, the poker scene disproves this. He plucks the tossed cards out of the air, and when he replaces them he tosses the new cards into the same area they were in, imparting a momentum to them that remains when time is restarted, and the new cards land in front of their respective targets with no-one the wiser.
Given that there is no problem wth the motion of the bullet, the only other argument for the "guns wouldn't work" theory would have to assume a gun's inability to fire for either mechanical or chemical reasons. Either the moving parts in the mechanism don't work, or combustion doesn't work. In both cases, it would have more serious implications for Hiro than the gun. If it's the parts in the gun, then Hiro would have trouble with his own moving parts, i.e. his joints wouldn't work. And if combustion doesn't work wherever it is that Hiro does his stuff, then Hiro's bodily chemical processes would cease functioning on a cellular level.
However, seeing that your listed reasons One and Two make number Three superfluous, I think we can safely toss "guns wouldn't work" out the window without any difficulty.
One thing that Hiro did say was that people have a general misconception of time. He was with Ando and was trying to explain how time was more like a circle than a line. Since Hiro is saying that we generally misunderstand how time works, that leaves the door open for the writers to create any kind of time manipulation theory that they want.
One thing that Hiro did say was that people have a general misconception of time. He was with Ando and was trying to explain how time was more like a circle than a line. Since Hiro is saying that we generally misunderstand how time works, that leaves the door open for the writers to create any kind of time manipulation theory that they want.
Bust. Dare I say it... We might just have to wait and see... >.< Noooooo!
One thing that Hiro did say was that people have a general misconception of time. He was with Ando and was trying to explain how time was more like a circle than a line. Since Hiro is saying that we generally misunderstand how time works, that leaves the door open for the writers to create any kind of time manipulation theory that they want.
Hmm...didn't quite pick up on that particular ramification of said quote. Kudos for pointing that out!
That is the thing with superpowers. They can't fullf be explained. If they were, then they could possibly be manipulated. But, then again, I guess manipulating powers is the major theme.
I dont think Hiro "stops time" per se. I think He moves outside of it. Any actions he takes are not in time exactly, but outside of it, thus not actually moving objects at near instantaneous speed. He works outside physics as we know it...it does not fall under any quantum theories as I understand them, because again, there would be secondary effects... like bursting into flame due to the friction of moving at infinate speed, or multiple fractures due to inertia of said speeds...If he actually stopped time then any object would be immovable, locked into spacetime as they are tied. It has to go outside of our understanding of physics...and quantum physics as well...at least as much as I have understand it...
I agree with this theory. Hiro said that he could 'BEND the space and time continium' himself.
And if he could REALLY travel back and forth in time, wouldn't his clothes change? For example: if he traveled back in time, before his clothes were made, wouldn't he arrive naked?
But this is not the case, Hiro seems to be able to bring objects back in time/to the future.(maybe a human in the next episode??? Like TED????!?!)
Well, yes it would be boring if everything became logical and stopped (for me, anyway). But if it was able to follow a specific set of rules that still allowed effects like what we've seen on the show to happen, I think that makes it better.
The better it can be explained using our own knowledge (or at least expanding from our knowledge), the further we can suspend disbelief. If we get it far enough, it gets to the point that any power that they can come up with will be accepted.
As to the discussion on Time and Space, I've begun to think of them as seperate but intertwining sets of dimensions, if that makes sense.
It would be like a table (a math/spreadsheet/etc type, not dining room/coffee/etc type ). On one edge is the space dimensions, 0 being a point, 1 being a line, 2 being a square (as an example), 3 being a cube (extending the example), and 4 being unknown currently. The other edge is the time dimensions, 0 would probably be a moment, 1 might be a forward moving timeline, 2 could be either forward and backward or adding in the side direction (what that does, I don't know).
So, we would be in the 3S1T dimension (3rd Space dimension, 1st Time dimension). If Hiro was able to move into any of the adjacent (on the table) dimensions, it would allow him to do the feats that he has. So, moving into the 3S2T (and 2T being forward and side) would be stopping time, but remaining in the same dimension spacewise (without being confined to our time). Moving into the 4S1T would allow him to teleport. And the 4S2T could be so far away from our own that he might not control where he comes back at - and in fact it may be further.
If you stand still and imagine a flat screen passing though you, it can help explain it (or put your hand next to something flat. That flat surface is a 2S1T dimension, and you are interacting with it where it crosses your body. But if you step back (moving out of the path), you disappear from that specific dimension. But if you step over and back, you've gone from one point in that dimension to another without crossing the space in between. You've teleported in the second dimension.
Taking this up a step, a fourth dimension traveler would only be partially in this dimension and if they moved themselves in the dimension that doesn't exist in this one, they 'disappear' and can 'reappear' somewhere else. Of course, this would also be possible in any dimension over the fourth as well (as this also applies to us and the first dimension, a line).
No problem with me, everyone has times when they're off. And at least it isn't that hard to read.
So, does my thought make any sense to anyone else? It is just something I came up with while thinking about how people keep calling time the fourth dimension, and I didn't see how that would be the fourth dimension of space.
Well, yes it would be boring if everything became logical and stopped (for me, anyway). But if it was able to follow a specific set of rules that still allowed effects like what we've seen on the show to happen, I think that makes it better.
The better it can be explained using our own knowledge (or at least expanding from our knowledge), the further we can suspend disbelief. If we get it far enough, it gets to the point that any power that they can come up with will be accepted.
As to the discussion on Time and Space, I've begun to think of them as seperate but intertwining sets of dimensions, if that makes sense.
It would be like a table (a math/spreadsheet/etc type, not dining room/coffee/etc type ). On one edge is the space dimensions, 0 being a point, 1 being a line, 2 being a square (as an example), 3 being a cube (extending the example), and 4 being unknown currently. The other edge is the time dimensions, 0 would probably be a moment, 1 might be a forward moving timeline, 2 could be either forward and backward or adding in the side direction (what that does, I don't know).
So, we would be in the 3S1T dimension (3rd Space dimension, 1st Time dimension). If Hiro was able to move into any of the adjacent (on the table) dimensions, it would allow him to do the feats that he has. So, moving into the 3S2T (and 2T being forward and side) would be stopping time, but remaining in the same dimension spacewise (without being confined to our time). Moving into the 4S1T would allow him to teleport. And the 4S2T could be so far away from our own that he might not control where he comes back at - and in fact it may be further.
If you stand still and imagine a flat screen passing though you, it can help explain it (or put your hand next to something flat. That flat surface is a 2S1T dimension, and you are interacting with it where it crosses your body. But if you step back (moving out of the path), you disappear from that specific dimension. But if you step over and back, you've gone from one point in that dimension to another without crossing the space in between. You've teleported in the second dimension.
Taking this up a step, a fourth dimension traveler would only be partially in this dimension and if they moved themselves in the dimension that doesn't exist in this one, they 'disappear' and can 'reappear' somewhere else. Of course, this would also be possible in any dimension over the fourth as well (as this also applies to us and the first dimension, a line).
I mentioned earlier (in this thread or another on the same topic, I forget) that Hiro most likely accomplishes his feats by entering into any of the seven dimensions beyond the four we know of. But you went the extra mile to actually break it down into digestible portions...cheers to you, mate!
A lot of people think about time stopping and they think that is what he does. But what if he just made time move really really slowly?
Moving time slow is a good theory but it dosent add up though because If he switched places while time was slowed down then he'd be mosing so much faster than everyone else that there would be a wake (strong wind) If he were to movesomeboyy while he was moving that fast that he'd break almost all our bones because were not meant to move that fast. Kind of like when superman swwpes down and saves people... If he caught somebody falling at terminal velocity(the fastest speed you can fall) He'd probably break their neck...Like how spiderman's mistress gwen stacy died.....whew!
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). On one edge is the space dimensions, 0 being a point, 1 being a line, 2 being a square (as an example), 3 being a cube (extending the example), and 4 being unknown currently. The other edge is the time dimensions, 0 would probably be a moment, 1 might be a forward moving timeline, 2 could be either forward and backward or adding in the side direction (what that does, I don't know).
