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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yet she didn't know that Peter wasn't properly dead.


i dont think she knew he had a piece of glass lodged into the back of his skull, and when claire found it she knew what to do since she died like that in a similar episode
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This time loop thing is confusing, with several people could possibly be the bomb... Peter, Ted, or Sylar

This may have been discussed before... during the first encounter between Peter and Future Hiro. Hiro greeted Peter like an old friend, and mentioned something about a scar on Peter. Therefore, in that Future Hiro's timline, Peter can not possibly be the bomb. Future Hiro could've told Peter "dude you're gonna blow-up, or just stuck his sword in him to prevent the whole thing.

Peter cannot possibly be the bomb.

Oh yeah, why didn't peter acquired Sylar's new powers?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was worried at the end, I thought it was going to be Sylar. Awesome episode. Looks like HRG's organization is connected with Linderman. No real surprise there. Can't wait for next Monday. One thing though. If Mr. Mendes saw the future and how to kill Sylar, can Sylar look into the future and figure out how he dies and avoid it?


I think it should be noted that izaak's ablilty has never been proven to change the future. isaak said himself that he gave up everything trying to change the future
and failed. when izaak painted peter at clairs highschool it showed him lying in a puddle of his own blood and izaak worned peter all about it. everyone thought that this showed peter dying but he went to the school and ended up "in a puddle of his own blood" and didnt die because he healed with clairs ability.

I think Izaaks paintings show the future but that you cant actualy change anything
this meanes that he has seen how the others defeat syler and theres nothing syler can do about it syler having isaaks ability is going to be a curse that will plage him all the way up to his death.

the only one who can change events in time is the amazing Hiro.

this also means that theres nothing anyone can do about the bomb in new york
its going to go off what ever happens.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This time loop thing is confusing, with several people could possibly be the bomb... Peter, Ted, or Sylar

This may have been discussed before... during the first encounter between Peter and Future Hiro. Hiro greeted Peter like an old friend, and mentioned something about a scar on Peter. Therefore, in that Future Hiro's timline, Peter can not possibly be the bomb. Future Hiro could've told Peter "dude you're gonna blow-up, or just stuck his sword in him to prevent the whole thing.

Peter cannot possibly be the bomb.

Oh yeah, why didn't peter acquired Sylar's new powers?


peter could still be the bomb. ted is able to surveve his own abilaty and cant harm himself so if peter mimiked his ablilty and couldnt controle it he could explode and then live on to meet up with future hiro later

and peter didnt get sylers new powers becouse syler didnt use any new powers
peter can only use others powers by remembering how they made him feel when they used there powers notby simply comming into contact with the porson
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, and the question is who blows-up in loop 3?

Ted maybe? -- I just reviewed this thread:

The Bomb. How, who, and why?

Some pretty wild theories there as to who blows-up in the end.


I think everyone's kinda hoping that loop 3 is the one where NY DOESN'T blow up.

The hows, whys and wherefores, of course, remain to be seen..

Oh, and nice couple of first posts Tobias Reaper. Why not pop over to First Impressions forum and introduce yourself! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how is it that i can never seem to keep up with this stupid show AND Idol AND Criminal Minds AND NCIS AND CSI: (regular and NY) And every other show that i watch?!?!?!?!?!?! WHY DAMMIT WHY?! if only i had my own TV and my own place right now and what ever else i need to watch this show!! it is so totally awesome!! thanks for the Super Summary Byd!! it was absolutely great!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hercules67 wrote:
Yeah, and the question is who blows-up in loop 3?

Ted maybe? -- I just reviewed this thread:

The Bomb. How, who, and why?

Some pretty wild theories there as to who blows-up in the end.


I think everyone's kinda hoping that loop 3 is the one where NY DOESN'T blow up.

The hows, whys and wherefores, of course, remain to be seen..

Oh, and nice couple of first posts Tobias Reaper. Why not pop over to First Impressions forum and introduce yourself! Wink


Yeah, see, but the thing is, NYC might still have to blow-up. Can you imagine a TV show having the guts to go through with that?

I don't think it will happen.....

I do think, a substantial number of Heroes will die:

Parkman, Ted, Jessica/Nikki, Nathan, maybe others. Why? Well, you can't prevent a bomb going off and not have consequences now, can you?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know they're gonna keep us guessing right up until the last moment.

I mean, the explosion's already happened once, it's about to happen again, and we still don't know if it's actually gonna happen or not.

Sheer genius. Giving us just enough information to confuse ourselves with. I doff my hat to the entire cast and crew!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

few things...

to the person that says peter wont explode.....in the GRAPHIC Novel, aka nbc.com/heroes/novels in future hiro's timeline...(the first loop) sylar= the bomb. its 100% proven/stated. That is why peter lives and has the scar that future hiro tells peter about in the subway. meaning...peter could be the bomb in the 2nd loop timeline (aka where present hiro is at, in the future but 2nd loop future) there are spoilers about it but...thats off topic/wrong section

also to tobias reaper guy...Peter DOES get powers just by simply coming in contact with someone. he's no where NEAR claire when she used her powers to heal at the homecoming stuff. also...he never SAW isaac paint the future, and yet gained that ability. hmm lets see.....yea that puts that to rest (the thing about him having to see the ability to use it)

that being said, this may be off topic but...is it just be or does sylar!!!! have to see the ability to use it? so far i've seen him see almost every ability he's taken. (he witnesses dale the superhearing to sense his heart beat, he sees the telekenesis guy move the object, he even sees charlie remember orders etc before he takes HER power, he even walks in on isaac While HE'S PAINTING!!!) hmm....kinda cool huh?

BUT...i do think peter can only gain a power when sylar has it "on" aka i think sylar is really familiar with telekenesis and uses that primarily, therefore thats the only one he got from sylar. if sylar used his other powers near peter, im sure he'd gain them....that being said..

why didnt sylar simply "remember" everyone on the list? (aka the map one) he has charlie's powers!!!

im kinda torn about the mom of peter petrelli whats her name? angela? anyways...i think she kinda knows about peter (as far as him not being dead) because..."lets hide him till after the election" what does that mean? get elected, then we'll revive him so he'll go BOOOM? maybe...or...maybe she thinks/knows he's the bomb, and didnt really want him to get revived. but that doesnt really work because she let claire see him etc etc..... DAMNIT i NEED MORE HIROS! (its what i call heroes in real life/on the internet)

i reallllllly hope the third time line (aka when present hiro returns from the future with all that knowledge of whats gonna happen) still has the explosion.... dont get me wrong, i dont want hiro or peter to die (isaac was my other fav RIP) but i DO want an explosion, we need some of that "omg...it actually happened, they couldnt stop it" would be the shizzzzle

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thank you Deftones. Alles klar.

Btw, I do hope that Slippy's right about timeline #3 being the one without New York exploding.

Seriously, they wouldn't do that to us, right? I mean, letting the bad guys win that bad is just wrong.

Right?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beeblebrox wrote:
Yes, thank you Deftones. Alles klar.

Btw, I do hope that Slippy's right about timeline #3 being the one without New York exploding.

Seriously, they wouldn't do that to us, right? I mean, letting the bad guys win that bad is just wrong.

Right?


But what if they did let it happen? What kind of guts would that be?

I don't think they will though -- because they will lose the majority of their audience that doesn't even participate in forums like this.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't see them letting NYC blow up. I can see them alluding to it in 'future' episodes, but I can't see them actually allowing the major evil plot occur.

However, that being said, the biggest plot twist I've ever heard of would be to end a season with the bad guys winning, and then using following seasons to have those defeated Heroes making their calculations for change in the past, and struggling with survival in their own time.

Mix like Terminator with.. well, think of it as a true-life saga of Heroes being hunted down while trying to change the past. Quite a twist.

I don't think it'll happen, but heck, it would be quite interesting..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beeblebrox wrote:
Yes, thank you Deftones. Alles klar.

Btw, I do hope that Slippy's right about timeline #3 being the one without New York exploding.

Seriously, they wouldn't do that to us, right? I mean, letting the bad guys win that bad is just wrong.

Right?


It could be #3, it could be #3,000,003 - depends how many times they have to initiate changes before they hit the right set.

I suspect it might be #3 tho, otherwise it could get VERY tiresome!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: episode 19 ".07%" Reply with quote

IM REALLY REALLY CONFUSED WITH HIRO AND ANDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Confused Why did Issac say he finally became a hero he didnt do anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM REALLY CONFUSED PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wave wave wave wave [/b]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Bomb Possibilities Reply with quote

Beeblebrox wrote:
Yes, thank you Deftones. Alles klar.

Btw, I do hope that Slippy's right about timeline #3 being the one without New York exploding.

Seriously, they wouldn't do that to us, right? I mean, letting the bad guys win that bad is just wrong.

Right?


1st of all I would like to state that Heroes is nothing like any other shows I've frequented in the past; With that being said put the explosion into perspective.
If they stop the explosion, that's good but it leaves the threat of the explosion out there to hang over our heads for seasons to come.

HOWEVER

If the bomb DOES go off then you have yourself a catalyst for all sorts of character development. A) The bomb going off will provide the normal humans a reason to discriminate the Heroes... Always a good issue for tension. and B) An explosion gives every Hero whether they wanted it or not, the responsibility to use their power for something.

I think the bomb will go off and two or three of the Heroes will die or disappear and the rest of them will instantly mature--- (as far as their powers go)--- and either band together or split apart for some more common goals. I guess we'll have to wait and see... Four episodes left? AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH....

I can't wait to see Sylar's face on the news in the next episode!
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