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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, it was at the diner, after isaac left the company facility thing. Ando nods "Tell him" then hiro tells isaac about him with his head cut off.....isaac ruffles his hair and says "the man that cuts open heads is caught" or w/e...

ps..i realllllly loved that part. because of the continuality it was awesome
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone think that linderman's plan is a little reminescent of the graphic novel "The Watchmen". I'm all confused with the show, as always, but I still enjoy watching it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could someone please explain the conversation that Hiro and Ando had about the "brain man"? When Ando said "Im confused" I was too. I am assuming that "brain man" = Sylar, but he wasnt caught in Hiro's time, or if Hiro knows he was caught then he didnt know he escaped.


Hiro knew that Sylar had been caught, Isaac told him when they met (or on the phone...can't fully remember) waaaay back when. Hiro was concerned for Isaac, but Isaac said that the man who killed people (and him) had been captured.


No, actually, you're all forgetting... Eden told Isaac, and Isaac told Hiro over the phone and then when they met because he was concerned since they did not save the cheerleader or Charlie. This was Isaac's way of appeasing Hiro...

There was no way for Hiro to know that Sylar had ofcourse escaped.....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHustonM wrote:
Could someone please explain the conversation that Hiro and Ando had about the "brain man"? When Ando said "Im confused" I was too. I am assuming that "brain man" = Sylar, but he wasnt caught in Hiro's time, or if Hiro knows he was caught then he didnt know he escaped.


See previous reply -- Hiro though that "brain man" (aka Sylar was caught).

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Also, was the timeline made by Sylar or Future Hiro? Was Sylar painting in Isaacs studio or elsewhere? Did anyone else notice that Present Hiro lowered his sword, but Future Hiro did not? Also, FH really did not seem happy to see himself... almost like he blamed himself for the whole mess!

Also... The explosion happens and we see what the future would be like. I am betting that by the end of the season, the explosion does not happen and Season Two shows the new future.


Sylar was in Isaac's studio of course. Future Hiro is trying to piece the timeline together (see the online comic book at NBC.com) in order to step in and prevent the destruction of NYC. There are those of us over at the "Theories & Spoilers" Forum that have our own theories as to why Future Hiro is having so much trouble in trying to accomplish this.... This was in the comic book published today if you have not read it:
Future Hiro was really unhappy because he had just stepped back from talking to Peter in the subway car (episode 2, 3?) thinking that this was the one event necessary to change the course of history and upon his return the future would be different. But NYC was still destroyed. This is why he was unhappy. And I probably said too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone think that linderman's plan is a little reminescent of the graphic novel "The Watchmen". I'm all confused with the show, as always, but I still enjoy watching it.


Linderman's plan made "Ozymandius" immediately jump to my mind too. I bet the writers did this intentionally as a nod to "The Watchmen."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nathan said that Peter's death wasnt suppose to happen like that! So if Ma Petrelli can see into the future, then she knows the future can change. However, the "spitting up bullets" may have been a 'typo' meaning that it is illogical for her to know that and not know that Peter could/would be saved.


I think the Haitian would have told Angela what he knew. The Haitian could have heard from Claire during the road trip or from HRG on the way from Primatech to the Bennet house. Maybe Claire or HRG didn't give a full history including Claire's "death" and other injuries - only what was relevant to the most recent crisis, that she had been shot but recovered (and spat up the bullet).

I was creeped out, too, Deftonesidea, by Nathan saying, "He wasn't supposed to die like this," like he had another way in mind. "He was wrong," was about Linderman. Yet I think the grief was genuine and not just about the election. I haven't quite figured out Angela and Nathan - their affection for family members is real as far as I can tell, but at the same time, they have no problems with imposing their will on them. (Same for HRG's relationship with Claire. At least she's sort of used to it. No wonder she only feels safe with Peter.)

Let's see, Mohinder and The Company don't know Peter's alive (and that's good!), Hiro doesn't know Sylar escaped, future Hiro and present Hiro don't know what they need to change to stop the bomb, HRG doesn't know where Claire is, Niki/Jessica doesn't know where Micah is (but I'm sure she can figure out with whom). Hopefully Sylar doesn't know Peter's still alive, but that won't last long. I don't know what happened to Mrs. Bennet and Lyle, and I don't know how the explosion happened if it's Peter and not Sylar. I'm sure once that's settled, there will be a fresh batch of questions.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotta stuff there, deftonesdea old pal, so here goes....

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a couple things i'll add, much more later
ando = for sure a traitor/future hiro doesnt like him/he works for the company or hiro's father...


Ando is Hiro's best friend and confidante. Even if Ando is working for Kaito Nakamura, he's still on Hiro's side. Those guys have been through hell together and for each other. That's a lifetime bond right there.

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future hiro goes "YOU!" and past hiro goes "me?" meaning its 99% for sure ANDO who future hiro is addressing.


F.Hiro and P.Hiro are looking straight at each other. F.Hiro is from the "first time round the timeline" ... he's TOTALLY not expecting P.Hiro to be there. Besides which, he's just found out his plan to go back to the past and meet Peter on the subway hasn't worked. He's pretty pissed.

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was it just me, or did nathan keep basically saying "im only sad because peter died like this and not the explosion that helps me get into the white house." he seemed to say (alot i might add) "he wasnt supposed to die like this!" etc etc.."he was wrong!" and not just at that point later on...


I think you're close, but not quite there with that one, def. Nathan is a caring man, but he's subdued that with "political necessity". His slightly messed-up logic says..."I can't let NY blow up even if it DOES save the world, because I can't lose my brother, but if my brother survives, and Linderman's right, then I have to go along with his plan. He's too powerful for me to play it any other way ... unless"

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sylar gaining isaac's power stops the bomb and/or kills sylar because ...thats what isaac's role is. he "gets to be a hero" by giving up his power to sylar.


It's established in the Graphic Novel that, first time round the timeline, Sylar is the bomb. Video previews say that second time round the timeline, Peter is the bomb

Third time round the timeline? All bets are off, but we'll find out at the end of the season.

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OH YEA AND THE VOICE= ITS OWN INTRO THINGY. the person that does the voice (aka the scary one sylar uses once or twice) has its own CREDIT thingy in the beginning of the episode....this HAS To be a hint of things to come...right!?!


I take it you mean where it says "The voice of Shenkar"

If you look carefully at the opening credits for ".07%" you'll see it's the score that's credited to "Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman with the voice of Shenkar"

Wendy and Lisa compose the music for Heroes...check them here
I'm pretty sure that "The Voice of Shenkar" is this guy

Peter and Sylar's "TK Voice" and Eden's "Control Voice" are done using pretty standard voice-changing software
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offtopic preview vid and screen grab moved to this thread in spoilers and theories.

edit: And then moved to the correct thread, also in spoilers and theories, lol

Okay, so I'm still getting used to the job, but I'm not doing too badly, I think!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: C-Diddy Reply with quote

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Hey Rocketsauce:

Yeah, that was totally C-Diddy as Isaac's courier.

I'd like to think that he is a Hero too, and one day he will rock the world.

But only time will tell.


Ha! cool, I thought that was him and I'm not crazy.

C-Diddy definitely is a Hero. He has the power to rock you with no instruments! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweeeeet slippy, thx for the thoughts. few mor things

i know this was mentioned already but it kinda ticked me off because it was a lil TOOOOO conveniant. when HRG (Mr Bennet) tells matt parkman to tell Ted Sprague (radioactive guy) to "burn bright, not hot" or red, i forgot he says "burn bright not hot" or something. Point is, how does HRG know this? If anything, maybe MATT would be the one to read Ted's thoughts and say that. How does HRG know about Ted's power use i mean. Even with thousands of tests, and stuff like that, "burning bright not hot" is something THOUGHT. Something that Ted probably has been testing with (when he was in that cabin in the desert)

BTW.....im 100% going for Future hiro looking RIGHT AT ANDO. 100% Meaning 100%. There was just TOOOOO much focused on past hiro, meaning its fo SURE SURE SURE 100% ANDO!!!!!!! Future Hiro= "YOU!" Past Hiro= "ME?" (meaning ando, thats the way heroes works)

BTW....the mohinder knocking out sylar was KICCCKKKK ARSEEEEEEE!!!! that part was sooo awesome (until u realize he doesnt kill him immediately afterwards, i'd be scared and book it though)

that being said.....i think im gonna stop watching heroes...its just getting too ridiculous and boring. I mean...theres like NO storyline whatsoever...*yawwwwn* not even a plot twist, the writers stink =[

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: If Time is a Loop that Future Hiro is trying to affect, which version of the Loop did Isaac paint?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im assuming it could be the 1st or 2nd one (aka where sylar or peter = the bomb) the 3rd one im assuming will be eps 21-23 (am i kinda right so far everyone?)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'm the most oblivious person ever, but where are you getting the 1st, 2nd and 3rd loops of "The Bomb?" Aren't they all the same one?

In conclusion, I'm confused.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 3 loops are...

1- future hiro's timeline, aka the one where sylar is the bomb (graphic novel)

2- the timeline that PRESENT hiro is in (aka 5 yrs in the future where evidently peter is the bomb) this is because of future hiro's meddling "save the cheerleader, save the world" stuff

3- this is basically eps 21-23, what happens in the present again AFTER present hiro (whos in the future with ando) comes back to the present (which im just assuming happens) thing is...this third loop could be loop 1 or 2, depending on if they stop it, and if future hiro maybe gives the present hiro some more messages and things for him to do...


do i make any sense?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, and the question is who blows-up in loop 3?

Ted maybe? -- I just reviewed this thread:

The Bomb. How, who, and why?

Some pretty wild theories there as to who blows-up in the end.
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