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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the comic that they are using from the future to guide them, it is supposed to be the one that shows how to stop Sylar, but there is a shot of a comic panel and Hiro and Ando are discussing the problem they are having with it because it is unfinished, no words in the dialogue balloons, my confusion is this.........Iasacc sent it off to be printed it should have been finished , why do they have a copy that is unfinished?? Possible solutions are that maybe Future Hiro found this unfinished version in the loft in the future, or...........i seem to recall Iasacc and the delivery boy having a discussion about him rushing the issue out early, maybe he realized that he didnt have enough time and had to git it out while he could .............
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If publishing is going according to the style these days, Issac would be sending out the comic to a printer's shop first. They would enter in the storyboard text, and then it would be sent for finishing and publication.

I think that the courier missed a step..

And I also think that Issac knew he would..
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My take was that the comic Hiro has from the future was in a timeline where Isaac did not have time to finish the comic because Sylar killed him sooner. This is why it was in the loft perhaps. In the present timeline Isaac learned that Sylar would be coming and even told Sylar that he was late (Isaac had already sent off the comic indicating how to stop Sylar).

Sure enough, this prompted present Sylar to question/look into what Isaac may have painted and made Sylar more aware. Whether Sylar knows what is in the comic that was sent out is yet to be discovered.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sketcher15 wrote:
Sylar Vs Peter should be interesting but i'm slightly confused with Sylars change of heart from wanting to protect the city to know wanting to destroy it doesn't make sense surely he will kill powered beings in the process which means no brains for him lol. Comments anyone?


When Sylar first realised he was the one going to explode, he felt bad that he would kill so many innocents.
He didn't want that and right away asked for some help (Mohinder) who didn't really help him but told him to turn himself to the police.
Sylar seeing Mohinder couldn't help, he went to see the person who actually made him like this and kept telling him that he is special: his mother.

He went to his mother because he wanted her to tell him that he didn't need to be special and that it was enough to be normal. But as we saw she actually made the situation worse by telling him he could be president. Right there and then he stopped feeling bad about killing so many innocents.

He then wanted to show his mother what he could do and it got out of control and we know the rest..
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madstract wrote:
In the present timeline Isaac learned that Sylar would be coming and even told Sylar that he was late (Isaac had already sent off the comic indicating how to stop Sylar).

Sure enough, this prompted present Sylar to question/look into what Isaac may have painted and made Sylar more aware. Whether Sylar knows what is in the comic that was sent out is yet to be discovered.


Hmm, I`ve wondered about it. Why did Isaac tell Sylar that he has produced the blueprint to stop him? Did he saw in some future that it is imperative for Sylar to use his new-found future sight gift immediately for his blueprint to happen or did he just want to have a final gloat? Since assimilating Isaac's gift, he drew 2 pictures ... 1 on him posing in the White House in a stance mimicing Nathan's in Isaac's earlier painting that`s sent to Linderman while the 2nd picture is on Ted (who`s that other guy next to Ted in the painting? Peter?). The first picture sort of gave him the idea to be president.

P.S: Is it me or has Sylar's drawing skills improved considerabily within a short period of time? The 2nd painting looks so much better compared to the 1st one. Hmm, Isaac's gift does not only impart the ability to see the future but drawing skills as well?
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There`s this theory being bounced around that Kaito Nakamura is actually Kensei. His eyes looked very different from the reflection of the sword he pulled out right before he demonstrated his fighting abilities to Hiro. An immortal fighter like the Highlander? Comments?
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenso wrote:
There`s this theory being bounced around that Kaito Nakamura is actually Kensei. His eyes looked very different from the reflection of the sword he pulled out right before he demonstrated his fighting abilities to Hiro. An immortal fighter like the Highlander? Comments?


OR maybe Kaito is the dragon, shepherding Nakamuras down thru the centuries and teaching them the art of the sword, waiting for the right one to manifest power...
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the Candice topic....

I think the personality shown when taking Micah to the voting machines is herself, if you remember you show an ID when registering to vote, and also it fits the comment that "she's big".

Also I have some questions about her power, what she creates is an ilussion right?
Can this illusion be broadcasted or photographed?

Seemed future sylar was living full time with the power on, and how is possible
that illusion was broadcasted evertime he did a public appereance as the president?

Can't figure that part out....

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenso wrote:

P.S: Is it me or has Sylar's drawing skills improved considerabily within a short period of time? The 2nd painting looks so much better compared to the 1st one. Hmm, Isaac's gift does not only impart the ability to see the future but drawing skills as well?


Peter's drawing skills have certainly improved since the stick figures. It seems like some of Isaac's artistic skill goes with the special ability. One thing I have noticed - Isaac was left-handed, and Peter used his left hand to paint (when Isaac was with him), and his right hand to draw (when Isaac isn't). I forgot to check which hand Sylar's been using. I could compare to which hand he uses for the pointy finger thing. Maybe I'll get back to it.

I'm leaning toward Kaito being the dragon, but he probably couldn't also be Hiro's father. Remember the idea we were kicking around way back when that Hiro could be adopted? Or maybe the dragon is more of a symbol of a teaching or duty which is passed down through generations. I'm sure we won't know anything else about this until next season.

I don't think future Hiro wanted Ando to die, since Ando's death was a large part of his motivation to change the past. Future Hiro gave Ando the page from the comic to try to help him save himself. Now Isaac might have thought that Ando would have to die to make future Hiro stronger or something, but he might not have thought any action on his part was needed.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might sound like a cheesy reply, but events in this show might not be locked in stone...

...Not for a show where time travel is possible.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Regio's question... i'm not so sure that the woman Candice was portraying was necessarily her real look... remember she said they were going to five other electoral precincts to do the same, for which she would've needed different IDs each time

as for the question about the illusions to be protograph proof, no clue...
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candice has said she can make people see anything she wants, so im thinkin maybe its a mental thing and they just make it physical for us, or maybe it could actually be a light bending type thing like the invisible girl
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like season final of HEROES
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baylor wrote:
About Regio's question... i'm not so sure that the woman Candice was portraying was necessarily her real look... remember she said they were going to five other electoral precincts to do the same, for which she would've needed different IDs each time...


Candice could have shown people in each precinct the same ID, a dollar bill, a paper napkin, a cup of coffee, or nothing at all, and they would have seen a valid ID with a photo matching her appearance. She could enter each precinct as the same person if she made them think they found her name in the register.

It looks like Candice probably alters perception, because she can imitate voices as well, but I don't see how a TV camera would transmit that to millions of people watching television (when Sylar used that power to impersonate Nathan).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly Payquage, I'd have to say that her ability is more like some kind of hypnotic suggestion than anything else. After all, she can make folks see what she wants them to see, hear what she wants them to hear, nearly everything that her illusion is based on depends on the person she's focusing on. I'd even venture to say that it's their residual memories that power most of her illusion. The voices, faces, and whatever else we can remember about someone, consiously or unconsiously, gives reality and definition to her illusion.. Does that tend to help explain the ability? I'm not totally convinced about this, but heck, it explains her ability better than anything else that I can think of right at the moment..
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