Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: Heroes Ep 1 "Four Months Later" S2
A vague summary I took while watching the show
Hiro
freezes time when arrows are about to hit him, meets Takezo kensai in the middle of a battle he where takezo started his destiny that hiro screwed up by transporting him
his hero is a white,english guy, nothing what is said to be
hiro tells him how he is a hero and as a boy he saved a village called Orzu, and they look and a town is burning and takezo says its orzu and hiro feels that he changed the past
he now has to help takezo become a hero and become the man he is destined to be and not a greedy, alchohalic
Niki/D.L/Micah
NOT SEEN
Peter
found in a crate handcuffed, clueless to his identity
Nathan
nathan is a mess and believes peter is still alive while no one else does
nathan's mom finds same picture as hiro's dad w/ helix over it
Claire calls and talks to Nathan because she can't help not being her real self
when nathan looks into the mirror for a second, his face is all torn up and burnt looking
when he looks back, he is fine
Claire/HRG
new school in costa verde, california
claire butler, hiding from company
met West(he can fly) and tried to stick up for a girl to the cheerleaders by doing a back tuck off a tower but then realized she wasn't supposed to draw attention to herself so didn't
HRG is working for a Kinko's type of place and hates his job and his manager and threatens him
Mohinder and HRG are working together and trying to bring the company down.. they wanted to get into the "gold" guy's organization
Matt
NYPD and is looking after Molly who is having nightmares and gets really offensive about it
draws pictures of mans eyes w/ the helix
Molly cries in her sleep and Matt reads her mind saying "don't hurt me" and "i can see you" and its the guy thats worse the the boogeyman
Mohinder Suresh
molly is w/ him and teaching theories
-disease/plague that targets these special people
met this guy who is also finding heroes and helping them use power for good or else killing the bad ones
-he can turn things into gold
Maya(power) and Alejandro
running from police from mexico to america, they are reading chandra suresh's book
banner saying they are wanted for murder
man driving them closer to border stole maya and left alejandro
alejandro caught up and found every1 dead in the truck and she is just saying "i didnt mean to do it" "why did i do it"
Ando
working for hiro's dad
picture of his dad w/ a helix over it.. meaning in 24 hours, he'll be dead
man with hood shows up on top of issacs tower place... and this man tackles hiro's dad off roof
dad says "i never thought it would be you"
New Men
irish men looking for a crate, but it is empty.... they find peter petrelli handcuffed and he doesn't remember who he is but his powers are fine
Sylar
NOT SEEN
charles deveux, linderman, mr. petrelli are all dead... now there are 9
After a season finale that had a "Hollywood" ending last season, I feared that Heroes would stray from the first six episodes...but I think it kind of started faltering in February when the second half of the season came out (Personally, I think that NBC only ordered the first six episodes, and then when it became a hit, they rushed the rest of the season through production).
First off, I think they're trying to turn Hiro into the "comedy relief", although we saw in the first season that he wasn't supposed to end up that way. And to go back in time to run into some English speaking Samurai? Where'd they get THAT idea??
They didn't really explain how Peter and Nathan survived or what led Nathan to become an alcoholic or Peter to become locked up in some cargo container, or what happened to Nathan's presidential bid.
Did or do Bennet's son and wife remember anything, and why does his wife seem fine now?
They're introducing too many new characters which is going to make each episode even harder to follow and spread the story lines even thinner. It was hard enough to follow the storylines of the first set of "Heroes"...now they're, for the most part, all back and they're adding more?
And, lastly, there were way too many Nissan commercials. Oh, and the "OMG YOU BOUGHT ME A ROGUE!!!" was a little obvious too.
All in all, I think Season 2 is off to a good start. Then again, I didn't have that many gripes with Season 1--even the latter parts. I agree that Hiro became a much more serious character during Season 1, but I don't feel he ever lost his enthusiasm and all-around giddiness. His stories tend toward lightheartedness because that’s just the type of character Hiro is.
I think we’re going to be told what exactly happened with Peter and Nathan in future episodes. An in-depth look would have taken too much time and a short explanation would have been lame. I got the impression that Mrs. Bennett remembered everything, maybe even Lyle. Remember her whole Mr. Muggles thing about how he was the real loser because no one knew he won a bunch of dog shows? Why wouldn’t she simply enter him into more if she didn’t know they were trying to lie low.
As for the two new characters, Alejandro and Maya, I like the story so far. I’m interested in finding out more. I don’t think they’ll take away too much time from the other storylines, simply because the “old gang” has been compacted down and teamed up so much. Parkman, Mohinder, and Bennett are all still trying to take down The Company. Meanwhile, Parkman and Mohinder are raising Molly with the new Boogeyman lurking in her dreams. Bennett also has to deal with his adopted daughter Claire, who is going through some basic highschool drama. These three storylines are probably going to be the first ones to be blended, so instead of three there’s going to be one. If that happens, I think the writers can avoid spreading the story too thin. If not, you’re right; it’s going to be a mess. Here’s to hoping, though.
I liked the entrance, mostly because I have been missing the show.
I do agree that if they keep introducing characters, its gonna get out of hand. So I guess its time to start killing some people off; just not Peter.
I think Peter's mother put him in that crate; Hiro's father said he was being targeted for helping his son, maybe she did the same for Peter and that's why she is also being targeted.
Another thing, i figured that Nathan would have just flown him high up and then just let him go to explode and flown away. Seemed logical to me.
I hope there is a real villian this time around, the villians so far are all ambivalent.
I hated this episode. I mean, I love that Heroes is back, but "Four Months Later" wasn't what ANY of us wanted. I wanted to know about Peter's and Nathan's fates -- but WTF? When Nathan looked in the mirror and saw the horribly disfigured face staring back, THAT was exactly what I suspected . . . but no, it's not real. That, or he glimpsed reality for a moment, seeing through some mojo that an as-yet-unidentified party put on him? We shall have to see. As for Parkman -- great. I thought he stole the show. The Family Formerly Known as Bennet? Not bad. A little bubblegummy (other than Noah putting the smack down on his boss, lol) for my taste, but it's interesting to see another person introduced who has a duplicate power (especially when he meets Claire, whose father has the same ability? wow.). Let's not forget everybody's favorite office clone turned Xman, Hiro Nakamura. Looks like our beloved Hiro really screwed the pooch in trying to help his hero, lol. Of course, it's probably exactly the way things were supposed to happen -- the Victors write the Histories, or some such. Legend is legend, and reality is often nowhere near it. Either Hiro IS the legendary Takezo Kensei, or he somehow evokes great change in the ne'er-do-well englishman and all ends well. Okay, ramble done, Stoney out.
Whoa!!!! I hate to gush, but I thought that was an awesome premiere for an incredible show. I don't understand what some folks expected--everything to be wrapped up in one show? Well, that's just silly! The little teasers they give us each week for each character's storyline is kinda what keeps us watching, isn't it? I don't think the writers would insult the viewers intelligence by saying "ok, this is everything that happened to Peter and his brother and this is the whole story behind the Company", etc etc. , all in the premiere. IMHO I think they did a brilliant job and I know where I'll be every Monday night. Simply brilliant.
Question: I don't remember if HRG clearly showed his power(s) last season--did he? Is he just a super strong thumb/finger wrestler???
This episode wasn't supposed to be an episode with a lot of twists and turns yet.
This is the first episode of the season, following an explosion. They need to have at least one episode to explain what happened to them all and I think they did an AWESOME job at doing that, while still adding some new stuff
As for Maya, I think her new power has to be something close to how Niki's was. All those men were dead, yet she was crying saying, "Why did I do that" and boasting how she couldn't control herself. We'll have to see
Overall, I loved this episode. I can't wait to see more and more from the season
Here's some impressions from someone who DIDN'T watch the 2° season 1° episode...: Did ANYTHING came clearly?
We all expected some more from this episode (I believe that the English-Samurai is an unhappy idea, and the added characters began too soon) but,it's like Puscifer10000 said too well, it's OUR show and I believe that in the future all the black holes (like Peter handcuffed and Nathan's burned face) will be filled up.
I can't wait to see the show here,I don't like to watch it before everyone in this lovely but forgotten country,because I start to talk about anything about the show and nobody understand me (that's why I refuses to read the spoilers too),but in this special case,I can't wait and I have to say something.
And about Peter and Nathan's mom,I truly believe that she knows very much and hides everything (even her power) from everyone,even her own family.Ando appears such a little time?´It's frustrating! And for Maya & Alejandro,I like the latin people,but...is she a kiler? mmmmhh..sounds a little bit suspiciuos to me...
I repeat: I can't wait to watch it here,I don't know when it starts here,someone from the south knows?
I enjoyed the show last night. I dont think Parkman stole the show, I think Molly did! I am bummed that they did typical Heroes storytelling that left so many holes and questions. There is no way I can keep up with all the theories on superhiro.org, especially since I have been gone for so long.
Peter was not put in the crate by his mother. I dont think she would be upset about his absence. QUESTION 1: Who told the thugs to look for that crate?
I am bummed that Kaito died w/o revealing his ability (and so far Angela hasnt shown hers either). Of course no one is truly ever dead in Hiro's world. When he comes back, Hiro can simply go back in time to the rooftop and save his father.
QUESTION 2: Why did Kaito go up on the rooftop to meet his fate?
There are 12 (or 14) members of the original Company: Mr. Petrelli, Linderman, Charles D., and "9 others" (but was that including Mrs. Petrelli and Kaito?)
I question if the person who killed Kaito is one of the 9.
I think he is a underling, like Thompson was. Maybe Kaito thought that they would send someone more powerful, but that could be killed with a sword?
I think Peter will rediscover his powers and maybe have some new ones (thank you, amnesia). This is kinda soap-opera-ish, but maybe not too cheesy. QUESTION 3: Will Peter be a bad guy now (not neccessarily evil, though)?
I think
Hiro will become Kensai and get the girl.
Hiro will slowly become like Future Hiro of S1. I like his childlike giddiness from seeing his childhood hero. I find it interesting that he is disillusioned (how many times did that happen with him in S1?) and may take the reigns.
Maya and Alenjandro will meet up with (or be found by) Suresh, who is in cahorts with Bennett. Parkman and Molly will have ties to them, but they are mainly going to be used to track down the Boogeyman. Niki/DJ/Micah will probably lay low for a while. They should be able to go back to a "normal" life.
Question 4:Will Nathan look all scarred after his mother dies, since some speculate that she is causing the illusion of his unburnt face?
Just another reason why I love Mondays now! (Actually the only reason!)
I dunno Bhustonm. I think the main reason that Kaito sent Ando for a sword was to get him out of harm's way, once that Kaito saw that Ando was determined to stay with him during the entire process.
We know now that it isn't Angela, she was as disturbed by the picture as Kaito was. But they recognize the symbol, and the meaning, so it's a given that this similarity is going to take them back to an 'old' acquaintance?
Peter being trapped in a shipping container. Now there's one we didn't see.. (kidding)
After everything that happened to Peter in season 1, you'd think that the writers would give him a little break, and at least have some clue about who or what he is, instead of fumbling around the entire season. But I guess that's not to be just yet.
And the story of Hiro and Kensei... Where to start with this one? I'd have to say that roles are going to be reversed, and Hiro is going to become his own hero from the legends, and do the storied things that he'd been told or that he'd read about. In doing so, he's going to get the girl, and make some connections that might make it quite difficult for him to want to return to his regular timeline..
And Maya and Alejandro..
Where to start here? This to me seems like a kind of "Mission Impossible" theme. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get your sister to NYC from Central America without making much of a scene. However, if you two get separated, she'll cause numerous deaths due to the nature of her ability that she has yet to learn how to control. Do this, and you both might just figure out how to compliment each other's powers. Fail, and you're both dead... This truck will self-destruct in ten seconds..
And then there's the doulbe plot twist with Noah and Mohinder. They're working to take down the company from the inside, all the while hoping to stay under the company's radar. but this is going to be especially difficult, since Mohinder is working with Matt and Molly, and Noah is trying to hide Claire in plain sight. What will our valiant battlers do?
Good ideas, graet start, but where are some of the other folks? Nikki, Micah, The Haitian.. I know I'm missing a couple, but it's early, and my coffee isn't done yet!
Wow, where to start? It was an AMAZING season premiere, even if it was a bit of a let down.
It wasn't what I was expecting, it just gave us new questions with little to no answers to the questions we already had.
I agree that they're trying to turn Hiro into a sort of comic relief, but it's in his personality. He's just a naturally funny guy so it bleeds through into whatever situation that he's in.
Peter in a crate with no emo hair, COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED!!!! Well, the non-emo hair wasn't unexpected, but Peter in a crate sans memory was. And being found by the guy who played Hagan on CSI: Miami; REALLY unexpected. But it was a nice surprise. Especially for a CSI:Miami fan such as myself, it was nice to see Hagan again, even if he's a pseudo-villain on Heroes.
Best part of the show (for me at least): Mohinder being a "double-agent" so to speak. It was a surprise. And kinda hott. But that's just my opinion.
I got to say that Hiro's storyline is completely uninteresting to me now.
Ok, so Noah worked for a 'paper company' before, now he works at one for real? That's laying low; why doesn't he work at McDonald's or something? He must be making some dough, did you see his house? I'll work at the Paper Kingdom or w/e it was called if I make enough to afford a home like that.
Mohinder's been recruited for the company it looks like, wasn't he already working for it at the end of S1? That's how he came into contact with Molly, right?
Maya causes an octopus-squid like disease that causes people to leak ink out their eyes, i don't see how that is fatal, and it is very much like X-Files. So I know those guys wanted her to be in the front seat at the start of the ride and she 'needed' to stay near her bro so she didn't kill everyone... but apparently he could have stayed in the back, since her power reached those people in the back when she was in the front seat. I know those dudes where slimy and all that, so they deserved it.
Peter - holy crap did he look hot. I like the mop-of-hair-not-hanging-in-your-face-look. I have a feeling this storyline is going to be a lot like the John Doe series - remember that show that was on Fox? If not, wiki it, it was pretty good, and I think Peter is going to have a similar experience.
My most favourite part of the show - the Nissan Rogue commercials! I love to nearly identical 3-in-a-row routine! I'm glad we got to see that car dodged those hole in the street every commercial break 3x - that's almost as great as when Vista presented the sneak peaks in S1. (PS this is some heavy sarcasm, in case you didn't pick that up).
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Season 2 Ep 1
1st off the storylines are going to start slow for two reasons; ONE- the writers don't want answer all the questions at once. TWO- we've been waiting so long that we are just anxious for answers.
The Hiro storyline is going to be money--- From what I know I would bet Hiro uses his power to help Kensei (which would lead to future "legends") but the swordsman's daughter will see through that (she has much contempt for Kensei now, she will be skeptical if he starts doing good deeds) and start hollerin at Hiro.
The Nathan/Angela/Kaito storylines will draw out eventually...
The Maya/Alejandro story will probably heat up but Maya is going to kill a lot of people if she goes to New York. Not good news.
As for Peter, I'm sparked to see what's gonna happen. Was it me or did he shoot an electric shock at the dude in the container? That would mean whoever put him there had a power.
I heard some words over the past few months that Angela may know that Peter is alive... So maybe some Angela has some Irish connect and had him put away for some odd reason. I'd be willing to bet Angela is so furious that "the plan" didn't go as they had planned it, she was willing to put peter away until she could figure out a new plan... You can tell she isn't too keen on Peter's understanding for her idea of "the greater good".
I want to see SYLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
