Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Greg Beeman's blog update (3/19)
Slippy, I looked and I looked, but I could not find your original post on this topic ANYWHERE. If you'd be so kind as to link it so it can make it easier for Popkorn to merge the threads (unless he finds it first), it would be much appreciated.
1. Are you killing off Peter and Mohinder? Cause to me they are the central characters of the show that can bind all the others together.
Only Tim Kring knows all. But if I were laying odds in Vegas I would bet that both of them have better than average chances for survival.
So much for Peter dying.
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2. What does the future hold for Hiro and Ando?
There are many futures with many possibilities. Some are happy. Some are not.
Destiny = not definite anymore?
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I was curious as to the region of Peter’s face in which the scar appears. Many are suggesting it’s at the forehead, considering what Sylar is currently doing to him, but I’m thinking it could be elsewhere. Milo requested a scar and future Hiro made a reference about it so I doubt there’ll be no scar at all. Hopefully one with as much insight as you could help clear up my muzzled mind.
Tune in to EP 20 on April 30th and all will be revealed.
Lol, I hadn't even SEEN the latest edition of Greg's blog before you started this topic, so that'd be why you can't find my post on it....
So here's my two penn'orth
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2. Will HEROES have a solid ending on the soon-to-come-apocalypse and enter season 2 with a fresh new story? I hope it won’t go on forever and ever like LOST.
Yes. Yes. And it won’t.
Well, that's good to know.....I still think that explosion's gonna happen!
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Only Tim Kring knows all. But if I were laying odds in Vegas I would bet that both of them have better than average chances for survival.
So, before an episode is aired, don't trust what ANYBODY tells you about any of the characters. Is that what's being said here? LOL
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Hi, I’m a big fan of the show and thought Episode 18 was fantastic! There’s just one question I had… If Sylar’s abilities were impaired by the drug Mohinder had given him, how did he stop his IV in the first place? If there were a shot in the show that tells us this, I’d love to know. Thanks!
I think Sylar has incredible will power and physical strength. I think he used his telekinetic abilities to reverse his blood flow and willed the drug back into the i.v. (That was actually in an earlier draft, but we didn’t end up shooting it that way.) Basically Mohinder monologued him for too long and should have shot him while he had the chance.
I believe that's another score for Slippy....I believe that's pretty close to my explanation of the event. Obviously I wasn't the only one to come to that (admittedly obvious) conclusion, but I'm calling it anyway.
Now, why can't I find an index of the ComicBookResource's "Behind the Eclipse" series.....that's my other favourite source.
Wow! this is great info! i just have a question about the whole sylar escape thing. I mean...yeah....I'd say sylar's pretty strong willed too...but how could he use TK to reverse his bloodflow or do anything at all with it when his brain was paralyzed or immobilized or whatever...and we KNOW it happened before sylar even knew there was something in the drink. he just thought it tasted good. I'm just kinda confused about the whole thing cuz that's kind of lame if he's just so strongwilled he can overcome chemical brain paralysis or immobilization.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Greg Beeman's blog update (3/19)
AcidTWister wrote:
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I was curious as to the region of Peter’s face in which the scar appears. Many are suggesting it’s at the forehead, considering what Sylar is currently doing to him, but I’m thinking it could be elsewhere. Milo requested a scar and future Hiro made a reference about it so I doubt there’ll be no scar at all. Hopefully one with as much insight as you could help clear up my muzzled mind.
Tune in to EP 20 on April 30th and all will be revealed.
So we WILL see Future Peter!
Read more at the link above.
I'm telling you right now that I will melt (Zane Taylor style) if we see Future Peter.
And if so, I'm thinking that the scene with him is going to be something that we never expected, meaning... (just hidden to add to the suspense)
Future Peter is in a hospital bed (or rather, being taken care of by somebody such as Future Hiro/Angela Petrelli because he has been close to fatally injured, etc)...
Or he's been taken by The Company and has not been released...
Or he's turned evil on us.
Whatever the case is, I just don't see it being so simple and clean cut, like "Oh, hey, there's Future Peter. Let's all say hi to our best-good-guy-friend who's stronger than ever and is keeping this future timeline together." I think we'll get a kick in the face... but alas, that is just my two cents, and we won't find out until April 30th. ~Sigh~ Thank you, Greg Beeman, for making me even more ancy with anticipation.
Wow! this is great info! i just have a question about the whole sylar escape thing. I mean...yeah....I'd say sylar's pretty strong willed too...but how could he use TK to reverse his bloodflow or do anything at all with it when his brain was paralyzed or immobilized or whatever...and we KNOW it happened before sylar even knew there was something in the drink. he just thought it tasted good. I'm just kinda confused about the whole thing cuz that's kind of lame if he's just so strongwilled he can overcome chemical brain paralysis or immobilization.
I figured Sylar could still use telekinesis for very small things, like the valve for the IV. Alternatively, Mohinder may have waited to long to change the IV, and the drug started to wear off, allowing Sylar to start using some of his powers again.
I looked up curare, and it's a plant extract used by South American Indians to poison arrows. It causes motor paralysis. Maybe these superpowers work from the motor part of the brain.
EDIT: Curare causes motor paralysis when it enters the bloodstream. I'm not sure if drinking it would work the same way - maybe the chai contained a different drug.
Alucard, Sylar's base power is the ability to know what's wrong with a mechanism and to fix it....okay, so it's a little harder when your motor-control centers are effectively switched off, but I reckon with time and effort, Sylar can just fix his own brain....might take him a few minutes. Also, you may have your sequence of events a little confused....
IMO, Mohinder was a complete idiot for not shooting him straight away. He also didn't need to take a lumbar puncture....he coulda just shot him and swabbed his cheek, The mytochondrial DNA in his saliva would still have (I think) carried the genetic markers Moh was looking for. In fact, he could also have gotten a swab from any other Hero. And don't even get me started on the whole "patient zero" garbage....it's like they're deliberately keeping Mohinder three steps behind the plot....for pity's sake, he's a University professor, he's supposed to be smart!
I hate it when they rely on idiocy to forward a plot, lol.
i guess i agree with you guys on a lot of aspects and i see what you are saying slipp about sylar fixing his own brain...but I'm jsut not sure if that's really possible. I'm not sure so this is a question but can humans really just overcome many chemical illnesses just from willpower or even if we could see how it should be fixed wouldn't we need the "tools" to fix it. I get it and there's really no other explanation since it was basically confirmed that he either reversed his bloodflow or just turned the knob slightly. But i just find it kind of wierd and confusing since mohinder did say that he wouldn't be able to use his powers.....
I'm not sure so this is a question but can humans really just overcome many chemical illnesses just from willpower or even if we could see how it should be fixed wouldn't we need the "tools" to fix it.
I totally understand your doubts...."it just doesn't feel right" comes up a lot in various threads on this board.....so here's a little sidetrack on just how incredibly amazing the standard-issue human brain can be...
In the real world, there are people who can lower their own body temperature to within a degree of hypothermia and survive without ill effect. There are people who can go for weeks without food and water and survive. There are people who can lower their heartbeats to one or two beats a minute....all with the power of the mind.
Myself, through meditation, I can lower my own heartbeat to less than 30 beats per minute, and I'm just your bog-standard Human 1.0, 1972 edition with nothing more than a smattering of Yogic techniques under my belt.
There are also stories of people overcoming fatal diseases and toxicities with nothing more than creative visualisation, people beating cancer by visualising their white blood cells as "the good guys" and the cancer cells as "the bad guys" and spending as much time as possible, visualising the good guys beating the bad guys.
Any doctor or first year med-student will tell you about the placebo effect, where merely the suggestion that you are taking a drug which can cure you will set your body healing itself.
Stroke victims can often learn to use the affected side of their bodies again, despite the fact that the corresponding part of their brain is dead....these people have actually reprogramed the working part of their own brain to simulate some of the function of the dead part. Admittedly, it's a limited function, but it's still absolutely incredible.
So, my response to you Alucard is a resounding YES! Humans can overcome many chemical illnesses by willpower alone....in fact, we all have that power, it just takes training and faith to use. That's faith in ones own innate abilities, not faith in any deities.
We haven't even BEGUN to explore what Human 1.0 can do yet, and Sylar is a full version 2.0, not even an incremental upgrade of version 1
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But i just find it kind of wierd and confusing since mohinder did say that he wouldn't be able to use his powers.....
That, my friend, is purely because Mohinder has been written as a complete and utter idiot!
That reasoning has also been used to accuse cancer patients of causing their diseases with their own bad attitudes. NOT that Slippy would do that!
OTOH, survival rates of many diseases is better for people with emotional support, positive attitudes, etc. I had even stopped thinking of stroke victims regaining motor skills as much of an attitude thing - more of a physical therapy thing. I heard a few times that being drunk is the result of alcohol destroying some brain cells, and you have to make new paths to regain functions - while your liver disposes of the toxin, I imagine.
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Greg Beeman's blog update (3/19)
popkorn615 wrote:
AcidTWister wrote:
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I was curious as to the region of Peter’s face in which the scar appears. Many are suggesting it’s at the forehead, considering what Sylar is currently doing to him, but I’m thinking it could be elsewhere. Milo requested a scar and future Hiro made a reference about it so I doubt there’ll be no scar at all. Hopefully one with as much insight as you could help clear up my muzzled mind.
Tune in to EP 20 on April 30th and all will be revealed.
So we WILL see Future Peter!
Read more at the link above.
I'm telling you right now that I will melt (Zane Taylor style) if we see Future Peter.
And if so, I'm thinking that the scene with him is going to be something that we never expected, meaning... (just hidden to add to the suspense)
Future Peter is in a hospital bed (or rather, being taken care of by somebody such as Future Hiro/Angela Petrelli because he has been close to fatally injured, etc)...
Or he's been taken by The Company and has not been released...
Or he's turned evil on us.
Whatever the case is, I just don't see it being so simple and clean cut, like "Oh, hey, there's Future Peter. Let's all say hi to our best-good-guy-friend who's stronger than ever and is keeping this future timeline together." I think we'll get a kick in the face... but alas, that is just my two cents, and we won't find out until April 30th. ~Sigh~ Thank you, Greg Beeman, for making me even more ancy with anticipation.
I'll go you one better.
If the cut on the forehead isn't his "scar", and it's also not where he gets his hair cut...
Who wants to put money against me saying that this is the episode where we see Peter with short hair AND his scar? We already know he's, at least, got the scar.
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Greg Beeman's blog update (3/19)
AcidTWister wrote:
I'll go you one better.
If the cut on the forehead isn't his "scar", and it's also not where he gets his hair cut...
Who wants to put money against me saying that this is the episode where we see Peter with short hair AND his scar? We already know he's, at least, got the scar.
I'm totally with you, Acid man. 100%.
How could he possibly get the scar though? Maybe it's a wound inflicted by Future Hiro's sword, for one reason or another (maybe if Peter goes evil, as I suggested). Just a possibility...
Or maybe it's just your good ol' medical scar.
Hmm... whats' everybody think?
It's all a statement of Mind over Matter. He doesn't mind, therefore it doesn't matter!
Seriously: There have been so many documented cases of fatal injuries that have been recovered from just by the mental determination of the patient that we don't really need to re-hash Slippy's monologue.
However, there have also been the cases where even the smartest people go through the small steps, and fail to see the big picture. This could explain why Mohinder's such a twit in the show. He's not really believing what he's seeing, so he taking set steps, and not really determining his findings. Thus, he's having to retry his experiments, and still coming up with results that he can't explain or believe. He wants to kill Sylar for what he did to his father, but he can't willingly destroy the one thing that is helping him figure out what makes some of the others "tick" for lack of a better term.
Sylar seems to recognize this in Mohinder, and he's playing the poor professor to the hilt. I'd think that Sylar's going to string Mohinder along for a good while, then cut him loose when the stakes start to get higher. Like Peter showing up during a nice little playtime. Oh, wait, that moment's already here, so I can't just theorize about something I've watched, can I? *snicker*
Anyway, I'd have to say that Sylar has more mental control than we've seen, and this discipline is what is allowing him to be able to multitask and use his powers much better than the other heroes we've seen. That's going to be the one major equalizer between Peter and Sylar when they duel. Peter may inherit the powers that Sylar has, but Sylar's going to have more experience in using those powers, so Peter isn't going to know what to expect with the powers Sylar can throw at him.
I'd say that Peter's scar is going to be one he receives after a nice bout with Sylar like at the High School, and Peter goes comatose for a while again. While in that coma, Peter won't have control of his abilities, and thus will heal at a normal pace, and develop an interesting scar that will be fairly recognizable.
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We already know he's, at least, got the scar.
