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Darcy Has Mirror Twin...


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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| popkorn615 wrote: |
Glad you liked the theory, Wolves! And thanks for the link, Jessica!
Awesome BTE info about Sylar being illusion-less Action man... happy to me! Thanks!
If the F. Claire/F. Peter shooting is supposed to happen in the first episode of the season, here are my thoughts:
It obviously doesn't make sense to have F. Peter shot and killed in the first episode since it looks like he will be playing a big part in the upcoming season. Thus, if F. Peter does not heal from the bullet, I believe the season will be somewhat of a flashback where we see what F. Peter has been doing, especially in regards to the present timeline with Angela. But it won't really be a flashback because the timeframe we will be shown is ACTUALLY the present! It will be a flashback only in relation to the F. Claire/F. Peter scene.
P.S. Why does everyone always get killed off in the "Future" episodes? C'mon writers... change it up a little!
Lastly, something I noticed when rewatching Season 1 tonight. In episode 2 entitled "Don't Look Back," Angela says to Peter, "You've always been my favorite. I can't lose you." Well, here's my theory - I think we will find out that Future Peter has been working with Present Angela for a LONG TIME, as opposed to the theory it's a recently formed alliance. If this is the case, then I think that this sentimental scene in episode 2 is actually just a bunch of acting on Angela's part, and that she's just BS'ing Present Peter. If Future Peter really has been working with Present Angela for a while, then I think her sentimentality towards Present Peter in episode two only served to try to keep P. Peter alive so that F. Peter stays alive as well. By telling Peter that he's her favorite, it might make him more careful when trying stupid things with his powers, because if P. Peter dies, so does F. Peter, which would mean she would no longer have help from F. Peter.
Similarly, when Angela starts sobbing over Present Peter's dead body in ".07%", I don't believe she's thinking, "My favorite son, I lost you, and I loved you so much." I believe she's thinking, "Peter, you're gone, which means your future-self is too, and he was the only one who could save us. We are all doomed."
In regards to P. Peter, I think the only thing Angela is concerned with is that he stays alive. F. Peter is her REAL "favorite."
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What I think happens is actually something like this. In the future, after the villains escape and everybody's hunting them, Peter ends up finding one who uses the body-snatching (the big bald guy). He swaps with Peter, the Company doesn't know this, they lock Peter-in-Big-Bald-Guy-body away assuming it really is the big bald guy. Big-Bald-Guy-in-Peter-body travels back in time, shoots Nathan. Peter says to the security that it's not really him, that he's Peter. The Company checks and realizes that's what really happened, tells Claire, and hence the "I always loved you Peter. BANG" scene. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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i really like PK'S theory that f.peter could have been working with angela for a long time.......also that could mean that f.peter has just told angela what has been happening therefore giving angela the possibility of an extremely powerfull ability instead of the overused precog powers.
if the f.claire pointing gun at f.peter happenes in the 1st episode i can think if a couple of things that it could be.....
1.it is just going to be like the first two seasons where peter or hiro ends up in the future and witnesses a bed event or bad future and they are again trying to prevent this from happening as obviously peter wouldnt really want to be killed unless he is going to lose controll and kill innocent people
2. p.claire could be shooting f.peter.........like she is trying to save her dad by bringing down the company and discoveres that what she thinks is present peter is working for the company and he is sent out to kill her but end us in that situation hence the line" i allways loved you peter".......but later in the season meets p.peter and realises that it was f.peter she shot????
3.a bullet through the brain wont kill peter.......i dont know if the writers or kring have confirmed that a bullet will kill claire or adam tho.......but heres my theory on it. peter obviously has both adam and clairs healing abilities(also dont know if theres any difference between the two of them) but one of the could be brain activated ie the brain tells the body to heal, and the other one is that its the blood cells that do the healing, therefore if peter was shot in the head it would unlock the other healing power that he has and his blood would heal his brain. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| deftonesdea wrote: |
i like i like!!!!!!!
also...i prefer future peter to kill present peter....now THAT would..omg..be awesome "its the only way to save everyone"... *kills past self* or..nvm |
IF Present Peter was to be killed off, I think that would be a pretty interesting way to go, Def. However, personally I don't think that he will be going anywhere anytime soon - not his present self at least. Yeah, Kring says that nobody is safe, but when it comes down to it, this TV show (and all TV shows in general) are about one thing, and one thing only - business. Kring knows that if he kills off Milo's character, he runs the risk of losing thousands of fans and millions of dollars. Most of us on the forum would be upset if Peter was killed off this soon into the series. Just imagine those who aren't as into the show as we are, and those that may just be watching the show just to see Milo act. NBC might also have something in an agreement with him where he isn't allowed to do something that might cost the company a gagillion dollars, who knows...
But again, if he had to go, I would like to see his death be somewhat of an irony, such as the situation you've described.
New theory!! -
With F. Peter and P. Peter interacting so much, I think we will see some kind of disruption in the space-time continuum. Future and Present Hiro brought that up so many times in Season 1, and I don't think a breach in the continuum is exclusive just for Hiro - I think it obviously applies to all time travellers. What that disruption in the continuum will be like, however, I have no idea...
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| What I think happens is actually something like this. In the future, after the villains escape and everybody's hunting them, Peter ends up finding one who uses the body-snatching (the big bald guy). He swaps with Peter, the Company doesn't know this, they lock Peter-in-Big-Bald-Guy-body away assuming it really is the big bald guy. Big-Bald-Guy-in-Peter-body travels back in time, shoots Nathan. Peter says to the security that it's not really him, that he's Peter. The Company checks and realizes that's what really happened, tells Claire, and hence the "I always loved you Peter. BANG" scene. |
Nice thought, Darcy! Although, I think the whole act of the villains escaping will take place in the present timeline and not the future one. We will of course see the consequences of what could happen if those villains aren't caught (via flashfowards into the future), but for the most part I think the break out will happen in the present.
I like the idea that Future Peter (body switched) shot Nathan, but when I put it in perspective, the person who shot Nathan probably didn't want the world to find out about specials becasue of the ramifications it would cause. IMO, I don't think a villain would be concerned with that because he/she could just kill everyone in their way. I think a villain would just be concerned with causing havoc around the world. On the other hand, we know that Future Peter himself has experienced the bloodshed, pain, and consequences of the public knowing about specials. I'm sure that Present Angela, too, doesn't want the public to find out considering that she's got an important weapon on her side that can erase memories and knowledge (*cough*) and has been known to put him to use.
However, if your theory proves true, Darcy, and Claire is actually shooting an inhabited Peter (and he survives), that would mean that Future Peter Petrelli would then be played by a different actor. In a sense, I find that kind of cool, but IMO it would mean many less appearances from him when the writers write their episodes.
Oh, and not sure if this 'qualifies' as a theory or if it's implied, but I think Future Peter was the one who called up Angela on the phone at the end of Season 2 Episode 11.
| Wolves_Arsenal wrote: |
| i really like PK'S theory that f.peter could have been working with angela for a long time.......also that could mean that f.peter has just told angela what has been happening therefore giving angela the possibility of an extremely powerfull ability instead of the overused precog powers. |
Thanks, Wolves!!,... but your idea there - that is an AWESOME THOUGHT!! I didn't even think to expand upon what my theory would mean in regards to Angela's power! Who needs precognition when you have a son from the future!!!
| Wolves_Arsenal wrote: |
if the f.claire pointing gun at f.peter happenes in the 1st episode i can think if a couple of things that it could be.....
1.it is just going to be like the first two seasons where peter or hiro ends up in the future and witnesses a bed event or bad future and they are again trying to prevent this from happening as obviously peter wouldnt really want to be killed unless he is going to lose controll and kill innocent people |
Option 1 is definitely a good possibility in regards to our Heroes stopping an event from happening. However, I don't necessarily think that one of the characters in the show will be witnessing the future events - I think it will just be us as an audience - and then the show would flash back to, say, "7 years ago" or something like that. But then again, I have absolutely no evidence for this - it's just my crazy mind turning its gears lol.
On the other hand, what if we already know what event they'll be trying to stop?...
What if they will be trying to prevent the Level 5 breakout from ever happening... Hmm...
| Wolves_Arsenal wrote: |
2. p.claire could be shooting f.peter.........like she is trying to save her dad by bringing down the company and discoveres that what she thinks is present peter is working for the company and he is sent out to kill her but end us in that situation hence the line" i allways loved you peter".......but later in the season meets p.peter and realises that it was f.peter she shot???? |
The only issue I have with this is Claire's hair color in the preview. IMO, I doubt P. Claire will be changing her hair color to brown, like she did in the future. I think the only purpose of changing her hair was to better hide herself from The Company, but seeing that she probably won't be hiding from The Company in the present timeline, I don't think she'll be changing her hair.
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3.a bullet through the brain wont kill peter.......i dont know if the writers or kring have confirmed that a bullet will kill claire or adam tho.......but heres my theory on it. peter obviously has both adam and clairs healing abilities(also dont know if theres any difference between the two of them) but one of the could be brain activated ie the brain tells the body to heal, and the other one is that its the blood cells that do the healing, therefore if peter was shot in the head it would unlock the other healing power that he has and his blood would heal his brain. |
You bring up an excellent thought, Wolves. The only two people who have had the same inborn powers on the show are Matt and Maury, and we know that they are obviously related. Claire and Adam aren't related (from what we know thus far), therefore there's a great possibility that though the end result of their power is the same (healing), all the stuff in between could be different (brain vs. blood controlling the healing). Kudos!
Thoughts on anything and everything above? Lol |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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thanx PK
yeah i forgot about the hair thing.......think that ur most likely right about that tbh
a thought on if it was f.peter shooting nathan......what if the company somehow captured him and wiped his mind except the things that would allow him to be a powerfull weapon......we all know he can reverse what the hatian can do to his mond, but it takes someone to tell him.......and with adam burried who is gonna hand him that info.i think that would be brilliant if future peter is just a weapon for the present timeline
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Spoilers long interview
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=6d462af7-92f7-4f30-9b94-77abcfb9c25a
Highlights
-Threat worse than sylar and is close to peter
- According to Milo, "[Peter is] the strongest of them all, that's what everybody says—he's the most powerful of them all, [and] at some point those guys have to fall."
-Threat to everyone in the form of a power that has to be contained by the group working as a team
-Manifesting the regeneration ability traumatizes [well.......deeply affecting ] claire
[a depressed immortality..........highlander ? ]
- a newly introduced character has peter not feeling like his self
[body swapped peter ?]
- Episode one will be aired at comic con - Masi oka
Also, Masi Oka told me earlier in the night that they're planning to play the whole first episode of Heroes at Comic-Con. Count. Me. In. (Hope to see you there!)
- more claire teen rebelliousness
read the e! page for the full interview |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Sick idea, Wolves, about F. Peter being mindwiped and used as a weapon for the present. IMO though, I think that F. Peter would be able to avoid a mindwipe with all of the training he's had with his powers. Judging by how dark he's gotten, I think this also reflects how 'smart' he has also become. Much of Present Peter's 'stupidity' stems from the fact that he is too soft, a softness that F. Peter lacks. I like the idea though!
Awesome spoilers, Kac!
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| - a newly introduced character has peter not feeling like his self |
Yeah, it does seem like this might be referring to a body-switching ability.
| Kac wrote: |
| -Threat worse than sylar and is close to peter |
I think it could be a play on words. I think the threat is Future Peter after being body-switched. Who could be "closer" to Peter than himself?
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| -Threat to everyone in the form of a power that has to be contained by the group working as a team |
Now, that's VERY interesting. An ability that can only be contained if the group works together. C'mon everybody! We've got enough smart minds in the forum to come up with some theory for this ability. Calling all theorists! Calling all theorists!
As for my thoughts... hmm... well, we know almost for sure that they are most likely referring to Knox, and the fact that his power is like 'a combination of everyone's powers' as per the spoiler a few months ago... but as for one specific ability, I just can't come up with one. Any help?
And just for the record, this season is going to be CRAZY!!!! ::crosses fingers:: |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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future hiro will appear
more info here [i am tired.sorry.]
http://www.heroes-france.com/news_1216708268.htm
blog of ausiello
bad translation sorry
We will discover the capacity d' Angela very quickly. Much d' Angela and its family in this volume. In the first episode a secrecy relating to Angela will be revealed, a secrecy which will surprise the fans. More surprising that its capacity. - L' intrigue will be centered on the main characters of the first season. Cristine Rose quotes Hayden, Ali, Greg, Adrian and Jack. Masi will be again joined together with Ando. - Masi reveals that in the first five episodes we will learn who drew on Nathan and after that everyone will die… And we again will be entitled to the relation " Don Quichotte and Sancho Panza" of Hiro and Ando. They will start in Japan, but very quickly they will travel in the whole world (Egypt, Bora Bora…) - The new characters will be upon the departure related to the characters whom we know. L' stress will be laid on the relations between the original characters. - Matt will be found with crossroads between the good and the evil. It is in a voyage in the search of itself and will form a duet with a tortoise. And there will be several flashbacks. Greg reveals qu' he works with l' actor Ntare Mwine (Usutu, to also see Season 3: Ntare Mwine confirmed! ) like Brea Grant (Daphne, The Speedster)
ausiello blog has a video
check entertainment weekly website and here
http://www.heroes-france.com/news_1216698347.htm
- HRG has a new very interesting partner, with whom he will work in a conflict way. Claire will be included in what HRG does and they will find together in a situation where Claire will see precisely of what the work of HRG consists. - Matt, in the desert, is sought, been a Hero or Unpleasant? It is also found with a scorpion on the face at a given time.
kristen blog at e! online
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Paulette hawkins , d.l. 's mom / adam's lost love, is a augmenter?
Adam better ressurect her !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wow..
Take a weekend off, and see what happens? (kidding)
I got a chance to see the spoilers, and the trailers. WOW
Is September here yet??
I agree that F. Peter and Present Angela are in "cahoots", but the reasoning behind this is because F. Peter was SENT to Angela in order to direct specific events.
If F. Peter and Angela were working together a "LONG TIME" as PK suggested, that means that Angela working with Linderman was a plot that was supported by F. Peter!
So then F. Peter going to help F. Hiro would have been planned out ahead of time as well!
*boggle*.. This is getting deep..
My thought? What if Peter gained Julien's ability to clone?
How powerful would he become if there were more than just one of him, but all at his call when/if he needed them?
Just some thoughts to stir the pot! |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm... a secret that's more surprising than her power?
It's either the fact that she's been working with Future Peter, or it's the adoption. I'm leaning more towards the adoption. Speaking of that...
Ah, another new theory! Read it HERE
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Paulette hawkins , d.l. 's mom / adam's lost love, is a augmenter?
Adam better ressurect her !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Is that a theory, or a spoiler?
And other way around. She'll need to resurrect Adam. Lol.
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| My thought? What if Peter gained Julien's ability to clone? |
I love that idea, Jorm. No rebuttals from me! If one, or BOTH Peters dies this season, maybe that's the reason - we just simply can't have multiplying mimics running around everywhere otherwise this show would be ridiculous. |
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boy did paullette hate niki but if she does hav ea power then niki;s comments to her woulda meant SO Much differnt then how played  |
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Lotsa goodies in this one:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08204/898491-42.stm
Part i like
"Nikki will be back, but she won't have that name," said writer Kay Foster, confusing her own writing partner, Adam Armus: "I'm just confused by that answer." What they did agree on is that Ali Larter, who plays Nikki, will return. |
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