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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, it's not impossible that he could hear them over the screaming soldiers. Just think about it, he should be able pinpoint where Peter was just by listening really closely. Remember 6 months before season 1 started? He could barely even move glass with his telekinesis, and six months and five weeks later, on the day of the election, he throws a van upside down.

Powers, in the Heroes universe, should get stronger over time, and become easier to control. Who says that he can't pinpoint people just by listening? But these powers might have a certain limit to their expansion, also, so that might explain why Sylar didn't just rip the door apart with his head.

Oh, and isn't DL dead by the end of Season 1? Why would Hiro be looking for him now?


Actually, my assumption here is that in this scenario Sylar not only has the hearing, but he's also got Molly's power, so instead of listening to pinpoint Peter, he just thinks about him, and knows where he's at. Mainly because in my estimation, Sylar had two of Hiro's rescued 'specials' powers (Candace and DL), so it also stands to reason that if he was able to get those two, what would keep him from also getting the third? Simple answer: Nothing.

Thus, F. Sylar had the illusion power of Candace, the Phasing power of DL, and the tracking ability of Molly in addition to the Regeneration power of Claire's that he took, and the previous powers that we all knew about.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think sylar got to molly. if he did he would've tried to locate claire, he wouldn't pass on an opportunity like that... as he said, he's not gonna need to look for more powers once he gets Claire's. he did say he thought she was dead but in "thinking" she was dead, he would've known she wasn't if he had molly's power.

when HRG and Matt talk, HRG says their deal is that HRG turns in the dangerous ones while he gets to protect the harmless ones. so it may be that when Hiro asked HRG about the ones he send to HRG (DL, Candace and molly), HRG could've not send molly w/ matt, as hers isn't an "active" power.

i'm surprised that sylar had matt working for him, i would've expected him to want matt's ability. same thing goes for the haitian. wouldn't the haitian be able to stop sylar, blocking his powers?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baylor wrote:

i'm surprised that sylar had matt working for him, i would've expected him to want matt's ability. same thing goes for the haitian. wouldn't the haitian be able to stop sylar, blocking his powers?


I'm guessing that the Haitian doesn't know that Sylar is the president. If he knew, he'd probably block all of Sylar's powers all at once, to end it, but he doesn't, so he feels that he doesn't need to block Nathan's flying ability, since it's basically harmless... adding to that, if the Haitian is indeed oblivious to the fact that Sylar's the president, then he'd think that Sylar is dead because of the bomb, correct? So, even if he had his suspicions about Nathan, he'd still be driven by the commercial fact that Sylar's dead in his time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Zaraki wrote:
baylor wrote:

i'm surprised that sylar had matt working for him, i would've expected him to want matt's ability. same thing goes for the haitian. wouldn't the haitian be able to stop sylar, blocking his powers?


I'm guessing that the Haitian doesn't know that Sylar is the president. If he knew, he'd probably block all of Sylar's powers all at once, to end it, but he doesn't, so he feels that he doesn't need to block Nathan's flying ability, since it's basically harmless... adding to that, if the Haitian is indeed oblivious to the fact that Sylar's the president, then he'd think that Sylar is dead because of the bomb, correct? So, even if he had his suspicions about Nathan, he'd still be driven by the commercial fact that Sylar's dead in his time.


not to mention that those are people that nathan hired if sylar killed nathan and took his spot, he couldn't kill off his own people and not expect the entire world to try and investigate what happened. he had to keep his identity on the down low
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Post .Vault I Think That Explains it all. He Is The President After all And With A Crises Like This The Public Would Be Watching Him.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know, being president he'd have the "executive" power (not talking special ability) to do pretty much anything... and if it came to that, having candice's ability he could create any illusion...

although one thing is true... sylar (as nathan) wasn't directly working with the haitian, so it may be he needed parkman as a mediator... i guess i'm also surprised matt would "sell-out"... i'm guessing since he asked HRG abouth janice and matthew, perhaps matthew has an ability and he's doing it all to keep'em safe...
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what I can conclude from sylar ability is, he know how things work just by looking at them.

that's why he keeps looking to the other's brain and learn how their brain works, and apply to his.

the super power in this series is activated with the way of someone's brains function.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't figure out why Parkman didn't know Nathan wasn't himself. During one of the commentaries, someone pointed out that Sylar mostly dealt with Matt on the phone. I think there was an exception in Isaac's loft when Matt came in to tell Mohinder and Nathan that there were two Hiro's, and Sylar told them that he wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro. Matt either still didn't catch on, or as Baylor and others have said, Matt sold out.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont wanna get off topic but...

i think matt knew nathan= sylar
haitain= didnt (unless...the haitain was the one that dragged sylar to safety at the end of the finale..following orders from mrs petrelli) (and she knows about candice too! so she coulda just got them together, offer sylar all this power etc)

ok now...was it just me..go back and watch eps 20...when mohinder is telling nathan/sylar about hiro

mohinder basically says "theres a time traveler....TWO of them possibly..he can bend time and space! he's gonna go back into the past to kill sylar!"

sylar/nathan didnt even look REMOTELY like he cared...and NO dont give me that crap about him thinking "ahh im just too powerful"

i think futuresylar/nathan had a backup plan....i seriously think we're going to see future sylar again at SOME point... did u see when mohinder goes "hiro can kill sylar.." then he cuts sylar's black string....remember?

nathan/sylar just looks at it fall like "ahh yes....i know" thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: sylar still alive? Reply with quote

I dunno if anyone else noticed this, but to me, at the end of the fin, sylars bloodspot looks EXTREMELY like a wolf to me, maybe this is foreshadowing WHY he didn't die when he got shot before, and why hes still alive now?

maybe he has to be stabbed by silver, like a werewolf?

hes a screencap

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or maybe he's just exhibiting more of that 'cockroach-like' behaviour that we've seen from him before. After all, cockroaches have been known to live for weeks without a head, what's a small stab wound?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jormengrund wrote:
or maybe he's just exhibiting more of that 'cockroach-like' behaviour that we've seen from him before. After all, cockroaches have been known to live for weeks without a head, what's a small stab wound?


While Were on The Subject Of Cockroach's
I Was Thinking Of The Time Syler Got Caught By HRG And He Was Held Captive (More Like Caged Up For Safety) In His Little Prison.
I All ways Wondered How Slyer Made Himself Seem Dead And Then Escape
At One Time there Was A Cockroach On His Bed While He Was Semi Conscious And He Was looking At It Very Closely.

I Read Somewhere Some Types Of Cockroach's Can Go Into A Suspended State Of Hibernation And It Made Me Think What If Syler Examined The Cockroach And Made An Adaption To Himself To Be Able To Hibernate (Like The Way He Steals Others Abilitys)

This Would Support My Theory That Syler Doesent Eat Peoples Brains He Just Examines Them Closely To See How They Work With His Eyes And Then Changes His Own DNA To Gain There Ability (He Has To Cut Open There Heads Because He Can't See Thru There Skulls) I.E. (Cockroach's Don't Have Bone's)
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully the shape of the blood stain is just a coincidence. Silver Bullet or something sounds lame. he can stop bullets anyway as we saw with parkman.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tobias Reaper wrote:
Jormengrund wrote:
or maybe he's just exhibiting more of that 'cockroach-like' behaviour that we've seen from him before. After all, cockroaches have been known to live for weeks without a head, what's a small stab wound?


While Were on The Subject Of Cockroach's
I Was Thinking Of The Time Syler Got Caught By HRG And He Was Held Captive (More Like Caged Up For Safety) In His Little Prison.
I All ways Wondered How Slyer Made Himself Seem Dead And Then Escape
At One Time there Was A Cockroach On His Bed While He Was Semi Conscious And He Was looking At It Very Closely.

I Read Somewhere Some Types Of Cockroach's Can Go Into A Suspended State Of Hibernation And It Made Me Think What If Syler Examined The Cockroach And Made An Adaption To Himself To Be Able To Hibernate (Like The Way He Steals Others Abilitys)

This Would Support My Theory That Syler Doesent Eat Peoples Brains He Just Examines Them Closely To See How They Work With His Eyes And Then Changes His Own DNA To Gain There Ability (He Has To Cut Open There Heads Because He Can't See Thru There Skulls) I.E. (Cockroach's Don't Have Bone's)


he wasnt pretending to be dead, they were drugging him. cause it was after he failed taking eden's ability, they hooked up that one thing to the back of his head to keep him in like a drugged resting state. i guess he figured out how to avoid that like he figured out how to get out of mohinder's IV contraption. which means he didnt do anything with the cockroach. i think its just a motif that the creators throw in there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason i was thinking stabbed by silver is perhaps the reason that hiro was given that SPECIFIC sword is that it has silver in it, unlike the one ando bought and that he borrowed and stabbed sylar with.

Maybe thats why he was so worried about getting it, without knowing it somehow, or thats why issac painted it that way?

But then again, it does sound kinda lame, the reason i was saying that though, is perhaps his regen ability gained from teh werewolf sucks by comparision to claires?

If my werewolf theory is valid at all anyways Razz
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