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Hi folks I just registered and right away I have to ask for some help cause I'm lost here lol

I know they've said in recent episodes to kill Adam you have to shoot him in the head. What I don't understand is how he can survive the explosion 4 hundred years ago where Hiro teleported out of which more than likely would seperate his head into pieces unless he has another power we don't know about but a simple bullet to the head can kill him. This to me doesn't make sense and also how did they test this theory?

Someone help me with this

Remember in season 1 the episode "5 years gone" that fast fowarded to the future. The episode showed how Sylar took Claire's power and survived the sword attack from hiro which he obviously survived anyway or the company regenerated him who knows. What I don't understand is how Claire was still alive 5 years later after Sylar had taken her power. Thats what the episode was mainly about yet Claire was still alive. My take on it is can she or Adam really die if you take their head off or not? Did I miss something here? Does anybody remember that episode? I clearly remember her being alive although Sylar took her power to survive what hiro did. My take on it is they are trying to throw people off by saying you can kill Adam by shooting him in the head or cutting his head off. I think maybe Sylar did take her power and open up her head but Claire still regenerated. Otherwise there's no other explanation unless you start throwing wild twisted theories out there. Anybody care to share what they think or did I miss something?

Maxx Hitpoints · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: Great point...

That has always stuck in my craw...Sylar did not have the healing ability in that episode, he says as much when he meets Claire in the Petrelli mansion before he kills her. Keep in mind that Sylar was stabbed by Hiro last season, did not have Claire's ability and again did not die. I think Hiro believes he killed him, but at that stage of his development was not the killer he is now. SO maybe in the other time line Hiro also belived he killed Sylar when in fact he did not.

stonegroove007 · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject:

Sylar is the Cockroach, y'all . . . he will never die . . . . Very Happy

Sikorsky · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

It's a puzzling one... I'll have to watch that episode again. :/

Blufyre77 · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:18 am Post subject:

The FYG future was one where Peter had saved Claire, the future that F. Hiro came from was where Sylar had gotten regen and so survived the stab wound. The whole situation of FYG was a bit confusing, and had a couple significant plot holes about time travel that no one noticed or cared about because it was a spectacular episode. I'll just turn a blind eye to that particular scenario's prerequisites as well, and instead enjoy it as a masterpiece of TV, not always one of science or specifics.
As far as I have seen and understood, death for a regenerator only occurs when no part of the brain is left intact, or is transmuted or removed. This means Sylar can kill Claire with his TK brain saw because Claire can't regen as fast as Sylar can cut. I'm actually not sure about clean decapitation, though; I would think they are dead unless the head and body are brought back together.

GODSEND · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject:

Here is an earlier post I made for the question ' does claire feel pain' it is sort of relevent I think to the question 'can she die'.

I agree with the first post's. Claire does not feel pain like a 'Normal' person the way she feels pain is on a whole different level. Of course she feels pain, her ability just shuts it off or dilutes it so that it's either not there or just isn't as bothersome.

Now the whole idea of 'Can Claire Die' and can she survive being decapitated.
Yes she can die. As was proven in an earlier episode, but after the foreign object was removed she was alive again. I belive this is because her body can't become whole again or re-knit itself back together with a foreign object there, so her power remains dormant until it is removed, this was also proven with Peter and the shard of glass.

Can she survive decapitation? Well no she will die, but if her head is put back with the body, her ability should stop being dormant and will repaire whatever damage was done.

Any thoughts?

Blufyre77 · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:41 am Post subject:

Well, the question was really "can she permanentlydie?" and I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but it is a bit difficult. The easy, clean way is for Bob to transmute her. The other way is a Sylar -job on the brain (or complete brain destruction). That's my story, and I am sticking to it.

stonegroove007 · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:01 am Post subject:

I'm sorry, but if any of our regenerators are dismembered; they are gone. Chop 'em up, and separate the pieces, and they're screwed; especially the head. Remove the head, and they're gone.... and even if u put the head back on the body... i'm sure there is a timetable, a point at which the decomposition of their corpse has gone too far to be repaired. Even in the case of Peter and Claire's little incidents.... i honestly think that, had the intruding objects not been removed from their brains in such a timely manner, they would've "gone over", like a gallon of milk. "Remove Object From Brain By This Date For Best Taste"

Jormengrund · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject:

I'll have to disagree on a point there Stone.

Back at the beginning of season 2, "Lizards" I think, Claire regens a toe after cutting it off. Thus, cut off body parts regen as well. However, we all know that the powers we're seeing in the show originate from the brain. As Adam mentioned near the end of the season, removing the head is the way to kill a regenerator. "There's no coming back from that one" was the direct quote.

Sure, Claire and Peter were slowed down when a chunk of something impaired brain function. For Claire it was a root. For Peter, a shard of glass. However, Adam was roasted alive, and still came back from that horrific burning.

So my thought is this:

Remove the brain, or permanently damage it, and the regenerator ceases to be.

So decapitation, blowing a hole in their skull, smashing the head all over a city block, or putting a fist through the skull and removing brain matter would put an end to a regenerator's days.

Anything else is just a road bump.

Blufyre77 · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:45 am Post subject:

Two things:
1. We can't take Adam's word for anything, especially when he is talking to Peter. "There's no coming back from that one" could have just been like "Well, that was the best excuse I could think of that explains why I just put a bullet through a persons head when Peter could have stopped her shot anyway." His statement might be true, but we cannot know either way from this.
2. Getting third degree burns all over your body is only fatal if you don't regenerate, that is, it only damages your flesh and not really your brain (indirectly, maybe) so that situation doesn't really prove anything. I do agree with your conditions for death, however.
I do think that dead brains do have an "expiration date" too, though. There has to be a functional portion of the brain left for regeneration, and after so much decay I doubt it would work. It still is complete brain destruction that is happening, though more slowly than, say, a rocket launcher to the face.