I don't like the Angela-has-persuasion thing at all, and I don't think the writers will give her that ability, but it did remind me of the scene with Eden coercing Isaac to paint at The Company.
It looked more to me like pressure points than anything else, to be honest.
I don't think she's got any specific ability besides the natural one that she's got for making anyone and everyone she meets quite uncomfortable.
What do you think? Wouldn't she be the best police interrogator that you've ever seen if she could have them squirming in their chairs even before she says a word?
I'd say she has some type of ability or she wouldn't have been pictured with the 12. I commented in another thread that they made it a point to show her touching Heidi last night. Definitely hinting toward her power in some way!
I'm with PK
All that touching was way too much... Stupid in my opinion.
I'd like to think that Angela has an advanced power. Giving her a touchy-feely version of Eden's does not float my boat. And if she has something like that, would you not think that by now Angela would have advanced past the need to physically touch Heidi...
Clearly the writers were trying to make a point with all that touching. Let's hope they were just trying to mislead us. Otherwise, Angela better have a very interesting power and the touching was only one small part of it.
It seems to me though that the writers really can't decide on what power she has. At least not to any degree that they are willing to show us... And I was really thinking that last night would have been the perfect time to do it.
Also... I wonder how Angela originally helped the Haitian. Clearly that must have required a power, so he must know what it is. The other original members must also know what her power is.
Maybe we'll find out by Adam telling Peter. Ya know, Peter, why don't you do this? ... How would I do that? ... Just use your mom's power.
Maybe we'll find out by Adam telling Peter. Ya know, Peter, why don't you do this? ... How would I do that? ... Just use your mom's power.
.... I love it. We'd all be like , but (hopefully) in a good way.
The other thing, that still intrigues me from Season 1...How did Angela know what her sons' powers would be?
Is that part of her power, or does it hint that the Company has a very good understanding of how powers are decided?
Part of me thinks it's her power, but then I think of how Linderman orchestrated DL and Niki's romance so that Micah would be born with technopathy. Did he know Micah would have technopathy, or was it just a convenient coincidence?
i dont think the touching had anything to do with her power. It was very awkward but that was the point and kind of an intimidation method by Angela to Heidi to keep shut about what she had heard. If she had persuasion then we would have seen it used a lot more like her persuading Nathan to continue with letting peter go boom. She would have used it to keep Claire in line. She would have used it to exhonorate herself when she was held for Kaito's murder. And Heidi's reaction in the scene didn't seem like she was persuaded more like understandingly tho awkwardly agreeing. It seemed like genuine concern. Although to throw away everything I had just said, Angela having persuasion at a larger level would make sense in everybody forgetting the explosion. Bob said that not a single word of what happened was out there yet never really explained how.
It looked more to me like pressure points than anything else, to be honest.
I don't think she's got any specific ability besides the natural one that she's got for making anyone and everyone she meets quite uncomfortable.
That pressure point thing is an awesome thought, Jorm... I didn't realize there were significant ones in your arms.
However, Jorm, you really don't believe Angela has an ability?! I have more faith in your than that!! They've confirmed a couple of times that Angela has an power (the going from "A to B" thing), and she's also a member of the original 12, who all had a power in my opinion.
madstract wrote:
All that touching was way too much... Stupid in my opinion.
Well, I didn't think it was necessarily stupid, I think it was just REALLY creepy (like West-harassing-Claire creepy)
madstract wrote:
Clearly the writers were trying to make a point with all that touching. Let's hope they were just trying to mislead us. Otherwise, Angela better have a very interesting power and the touching was only one small part of it.
I'm with you on that my friend. All of that touching has to do with SOMETHING more.
madstract wrote:
It seems to me though that the writers really can't decide on what power she has. At least not to any degree that they are willing to show us... And I was really thinking that last night would have been the perfect time to do it.
That's a great thought, Mad. Perhaps the writers were misleading us last year with the whole "A to B" thing...
OR
You know what? I'm actually going to jump on Superhiro's bandwagon in regards to Angela being able to remove memories AS WELL AS help restore them. What does she ask Heidi before she touches her? She asks her WHAT Nathan told her, if he told her about powers and about flying. Angela could have been touching Heidi to remove Heidi's memories of the conversation with Nathan. The "A to B" thing that the writers revealed in the beginning of the year could mean that Angela can touch a person anywhere to mindwipe them (or maybe even not touch them at all), whereas The Haitian has to touch a person's head. It would surely explain WHY The Haitian teamed up with Angela specifically (because they have the same ability).
And like Superhiro says, she could have developed her ability to help restore the memories of others. However, I still think Peter was mainly using telepathy to recall those memories. Perhaps Angela can only give back memories that SHE has mindwiped... and perhaps The Haitian can only do the same, which is why Angela couldn't simply touch Peter to restore his memories, because THE HAITIAN did the mindwipe.
Thoughts on that?
ObsidianFlame wrote:
How did Angela know what her sons' powers would be?
Is that part of her power, or does it hint that the Company has a very good understanding of how powers are decided?
Part of me thinks it's her power, but then I think of how Linderman orchestrated DL and Niki's romance so that Micah would be born with technopathy. Did he know Micah would have technopathy, or was it just a convenient coincidence?
Good question, Obsidian (about Nathan/Peter's powers). However, I think your question is along the same lines as asking "How did Kaito know that the faceless, hooded figure was Adam Monroe?" My answer for that is, "He/she just knew."
On the other hand, if Angela is a precog, then she could have foreseen Peter & Nathan's abilities, or if not, knowing that Linderman had access to a precog (which he alludes to), she could have asked him to find out what Peter/Nathan's abilities were, in the same way that he probably discovered Micah would be a technopath.
I like the thought of Angela being a more developed version of the Haitian for all the reasons mentioned so far.
In particular, it being the reason the Haitian was with her. Didn't he say something to Peter in Four Months Ago, right before he mind wiped him, about how Angela had helped him before and that's why he was helping Peter? He might have been referring to him having trouble controlling his abilities as they developed. Who better to mentor him than someone else with the same abilities.
I never said that she didn't have an ability. What I _did_ say was that she's not shown it, and isn't likely to show it in blatant use.
When caught, I'm sure that she'll use her ability as a last resort, but I highly doubt that she's going to show her power when her wealth and prestige can get her into so many places instead.
I'd have to say that we've yet to see her power, and when we do, I honestly think it's going to be the last ability we'd ever thought that she'd have.
I honestly think her power is going to be something along the lines of Niki's ability, but with the secondary multiple personality disorder as well. Because maybe that could also explain why she was picked up for shoplifting things back in season 1. Her secondary personality got away from her tight self-control, and was able to get her into a bit of trouble.
Well I do think the last episode did sorta confirm that Peter recalled those memories on his own, as he did the same thing with Nathan and Angela wasn't around.
Personally, I really do hope that Angela has an ability that we never expected, even if it does go against the "A to B" spoiler from last year. Sure, I'd like to see Kaito's power in action, and Bob do a little more than turn things to gold, but I'd probably freak if I saw Angela's ability, especially if it's a physical one as opposed to a solely mental one. She needs to be put in the spotlight at least once! While we know that she's one of "them," I just don't feel it from her yet. She's all about public denial, just like Nathan in Season 1, and while I understand why she won't reveal her ability in public, it can't be hidden forever.
Similar to how the Haitian's father could inflict both Terror and Bliss, I think Angela can inflict both confusion and clarity on her victims, possibly by touching them.
If you think about it, while Nathan was havign trouble with his decision, he was clouded by moments of guilt. Angela's voice however was the pinnacle of reason, if a little homicidal. she cleared away his emotions and let him see clearly. The same happened when Nathan's wife was stricken with grief; Angela helped her see past that and become clear.
also, inflicting straight up confusion upon someone would be a powerful ability worthy of an Original 12. (Maybe it was how she got Kaito to sleep with her!)
However, a few things come to mind in regards to that. I think the power to 'confuse' and 'clarify' is a little too vague in my opinion. It was like way back when a bunch of us (myself included) thought that Linderman had the power to affect probability - now that I think about it, that's too random and obscure. Additionally, if Angela had the ability to confuse and to clarify, or anything along those lines (which sounds similar to persuasion, in my opinion), then she probably would have tried harder to convince Nathan to NOT go visit Meredith/Claire in Texas. She was very opposed to him going. Just my
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, but (hopefully) in a good way.
They've confirmed a couple of times that Angela has an power (the going from "A to B" thing), and she's also a member of the original 12, who all had a power in my opinion.
