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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's cool. A bit far to drive for a jam session for me . . . Maybe you should head to NYC and help Nathan find Pete!!!! idea


Haha, well actually I am living there in the downtown area for the time being (I'm a student at NYU and am living in one of the apartment-dorms), not to mention that I work uptown on Thursdays, so if I see Nathan, or Peter & Claude, then I'll definitely help them out. Although, I would probably have to use my ears for the latter two, considering that I wouldn't be able to see them lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's cool. A bit far to drive for a jam session for me . . . Maybe you should head to NYC and help Nathan find Pete!!!! idea


Haha, well actually I am living there in the downtown area for the time being (I'm a student at NYU and am living in one of the apartment-dorms), not to mention that I work uptown on Thursdays, so if I see Nathan, or Peter & Claude, then I'll definitely help them out. Although, I would probably have to use my ears for the latter two, considering that I wouldn't be able to see them lol


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, seeing as how we know that Ted can survive his nuclear explosions, this is my little theory.

Like you said, Popkorn, there's two ways this can unfold. But neither one has a happy ending, in my case, as it's the same ending, with a different beginning.

Let's say the dream sequence becomes entirely true. The rest of this season's going to look like it was full of disappointments, if that does happen because it means that, despite learning to use his powers more efficiently, Peter's still unable to control the explosion within himself. We ge to the point where he's just about to explode, and Nathan's already beside him. Nathan embraces him, as though he were hugging him... then they disappear in a puff of smoke. The puff of smoke has a trail leading upwards, (The part in italics is optional. It would save some plot holes from later on, like fallout damage, but isn't necessary.) and makes a 90 degree turn midair, in an easterly direction, towards the Atlantic. The trail of smoke stops, and only a few seconds later, a few hundred yards away from the smoke's end, a mushroom cloud appears. (More likely than not though, seeing as how Peter was unable to tell WHEN he'd explode, Nathan may end up sacrificing his life by being too close to the blast, when it occurs) EDIT: Forgot i just left Peter falling to his death here. After the blast, the trail of smoke would begin again, assuming Nathan survived, and would fly towards the new trail of smoke that's falling from where the blast occurred. The trails collide, and head back towards downtown, where we see Nathan land amidst all their friends, Peter collapsed in his arms.

The other side of the coin, is that it occurs with Ted Sprague. Same sequence of events, just a different character in place of Peter. This one makes a little more sense to me (right now), because it means Peter did learn to use his powers from Claude, and it means that Ted is still just as PO'd as he was in the middle of Godsend. The hard part about this theory, though, is that Nathan would almost certainly not be able to approach Ted, let alone hold him well enough that he wouldn't drop him during flight, without Ted knowing that something is going on and frying Nathan.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt that Nathan would say "I'm not going to leave you" to Teddybear. I mean, he may be warming up a la last episode, but he's still a schmuck at heart.

(P.S. Get me Simone's digits, Popkorn!!! Mr. Green )
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Let's say the dream sequence becomes entirely true. The rest of this season's going to look like it was full of disappointments, if that does happen because it means that, despite learning to use his powers more efficiently, Peter's still unable to control the explosion within himself. We ge to the point where he's just about to explode, and Nathan's already beside him. Nathan embraces him, as though he were hugging him... then they disappear in a puff of smoke. The puff of smoke has a trail leading upwards, (The part in italics is optional. It would save some plot holes from later on, like fallout damage, but isn't necessary.) and makes a 90 degree turn midair, in an easterly direction, towards the Atlantic. The trail of smoke stops, and only a few seconds later, a few hundred yards away from the smoke's end, a mushroom cloud appears. (More likely than not though, seeing as how Peter was unable to tell WHEN he'd explode, Nathan may end up sacrificing his life by being too close to the blast, when it occurs) EDIT: Forgot i just left Peter falling to his death here. After the blast, the trail of smoke would begin again, assuming Nathan survived, and would fly towards the new trail of smoke that's falling from where the blast occurred. The trails collide, and head back towards downtown, where we see Nathan land amidst all their friends, Peter collapsed in his arms.


And with that said, Acidtwister, let's write a book of Heroes theories. We'd make millions.

lol.

To expound upon the first scenario, perhaps he lands with Peter in his arms, amidst all of the other Heroes. Who else was there in the dream? Claire. Wooooo. Let the healing begin. Although, it would all depend upon how Peter exploded. If he explodes and his body is vaporized, then the chances of Nathan being able to bring a substantial amount of Peter's remains back to Claire is very slim. However, we do know that Claire can regenerate her limbs so long as her brain is in tact, so in theory, Nathan would only have to bring back Peter's head (still with his brain), as well as maybe his heart, in order for Peter to regenerate the rest of his body with the help of Claire.

HOLY COW, I JUST HAD AN IDEA!!!! And it's pretty logical considering what we know in the series. Okay, so let's say that the whole explosion storyline continues the same way that it happened in his dream. Peter is about to explode. If we remember, Hiro asks the question, "How do you stop an exploding man." You stop an exploding man, or any type of bomb, by cutting the wire, by stopping the countdown to zero. How would you stop a human from exploding? ... ...

Stop his heart.

My new theory is that if Peter's heart is stopped (a.k.a. he is killed), his body will no longer be able to reach "0:00" and "detonate."

Of course we can't kill Peter with a gun though because (as Ted had said before) impact of the bullet hitting a radioactive body may cause it to explode. Thus, we will have to find a different way to stop his heart. Maybe by impaling it (as gross as that seems, it's very plausible), or maybe by having DL reach in and squeezing it to death.

Now, how does this all fit in with what we've been told in the series? Well, we can all assume right now that either Peter or Hiro (or both of them together) are the only ones who will be able to stop Sylar and the dark future that is depicted by Future Hiro. But now you say to yourself, "We just killed Peter in order to stop the bomb, so we can't save the future anymore." Right?
Wrong! What are we forgetting????

SAVE THE CHEERLEADER, SAVE THE WORLD.

We still have no idea why Peter had to save Claire yet, but now we do because I am proposing this theory. We must kill Peter in order to stop the bomb. But we must revive him (with Claire) in order for him to stop Sylar and the destruction of the world.

Phew, that was a mouthful. I'm going to make this into a new topic since it seems as if many of us have forgotten "Save the cheerleader. Save the world.", but in the meantime, what does everybody think about my popkorny antics? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I highly doubt that Nathan would say "I'm not going to leave you" to Teddybear. I mean, he may be warming up a la last episode, but he's still a schmuck at heart.

(P.S. Get me Simone's digits, Popkorn!!! Mr. Green )


Haha, I'll try! Although, I don't think I will have any success considering that Heroes is filmed in L.A., lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Popkorn, it was worth a shot, right?

That's an interesting idea that all they would have to have for Peter to regenerate would be his head . . . I think there would have to be a substantial amount of his body there, because of the whole "matter can neither be created nor destroyed" thing . . . .
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Hey, Popkorn, it was worth a shot, right?

That's an interesting idea that all they would have to have for Peter to regenerate would be his head . . . I think there would have to be a substantial amount of his body there, because of the whole "matter can neither be created nor destroyed" thing . . . .


I understand your point about matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but something just occurred to me. When Claire shoved her hand into the garbage disposal and took it out back in episode forever-ago, lol, it was severly mangled, but she was still able to regenerate the skin AND bones that made up her fingers. This leads me to stick to my "all you'd need is Peter's head to regenerate the rest of his body with Claire's power" theory, and I'll elaborate a little bit. Claire being able to reconstruct not only her skin cells, but also the bones in her fingers, means that there actually may be a "blueprint" created by each person's DNA, which is furthermore read by the brain. Since Claire has the ability to heal, her brain reads the blueprint of her body and knows what needs to be regrown and how to regrow it (dimensions, length, etc) in order for her to be whole again. The reason that she was not able to heal with the wooden stake in her head was because it must have been lodged into some part of her brain, thus disrupting it from being able to "read" the blueprint of her body. Thus, for those few hours in time, Claire was not able to regenerate because her brain was not in tact, and she remained dead until the stake was removed.
Therefore, if Peter were to absorb her power, his brain would be able to reconstruct the blueprint created by his DNA, just as long as his brain was not harmed, impaled, or disrupted.
I think this is further strengthened by the fact that Sylar needs people's brains in order to "see how they tick" and absorb their abilties, because that's where each person's blueprint lies - in the noggin.

What does everybody think? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna have to disagree this time, Popkorn. I think the reason that Pete ended up in a coma was the shock to his body from dying and regenerating. Yes, Claire has immediately recovered from some serious injuries, but her body was still mostly intact. If all you had was a head, where would the building materials come from for regeneration? I think you would at least have to have the head and a mostly-there torso.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She has never lost an appendage. That might be pushing it to see if you have the ability to heal or regenerate a lost hand. She broke bones and mangled fingers but never had to reform a body part. So saying that she could heal Peter if all you had was a head might be stretching it a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet a finger, maybe even an arm or part of a leg could be grown back. Bhyustonm, thanks for being another voice of reason on the whole "head" thing.
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Well, I thought I had read somewhere that with development, Claire may have the ability to restore lost limbs, which is where I first got the idea from in the first place. I'll look for that link and post it here if I find it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm absolutely sure she could regrow, say, a finger. It's anything larger that I question.
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Not to be a downer, but this discussion is getting a bit offtopic . I'd say that if she needs that regenerative power when Natha reveals his powers, then the world as we're seeing it is in a really sad state!

Anyway, I'd like to think that Claire is helping to bring about some change in some of the hardened adults in this series. I mean yes, she's learning to decieve, but she isn't liking where it's taking her. I think that she's going to be bucking the system with her youthful idealism, and throwing off the chains and burden of deciet. This will put her on a course of meeting Peter and Nathan again. When this happens, I think that Nathan is going to be forced to use his power, or watch Claire get into some serious trouble that he isn't going to want on his consience.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Throwing off the chains and burdens of deceit"???? That's awesome, Jorm!!!
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