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Action Figure · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:20 am Post subject:

D'oh!

you're right!

Nevertheless Ando isnt there either!

Payquage · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:

Your point stands. The future Hiro saw at the beginning of the season has had a few alterations, since Ando hasn't been putting up MISSING posters in Japan for the past month+. At least I think I saw a MISSING poster for Hiro at Ando's desk.

Action Figure · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:44 am Post subject:

Exactly

Buckaroo · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:49 am Post subject:

A possible paradox in the time-travel tapestry...

Stream A: Sylar kills Claire, and Peter (or Sylar) goes bang, Hiro and Peter meet up coincidently and Peter has picked up a scar from somewhere as he has no healing ability.

Stream B: Hiro goes back in time, gets Peter to save Claire, but comes back to a future where Peter has apparently saved Claire, but the future hasn't changed at all, and as the explosion still happened, Hiro assumes the venture failed. I seem to remember he is genuinely suprised when he finds out that Claire had in fact survived and had been in hiding 'all along'.

(This last bit is a neat method of having a major event change have minimal effect on the present.)

Stream B, as far as I can tell, should have Hiro teleporting back to a world where Peter was without the scar (as he had healing powers). If Hiro had saved the cheerleader, he should have saved Peter's face as a direct result.

slippy · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:27 am Post subject:

Essentially, it seems that Tim Kring and the gang have changed their minds about how time travel works in the show.

When Hiro travels forward in time (from Oct 2nd to Nov 8th), time continues from when he left to when he arrived at his destination as if he isn't there, hence "Hiro missing", and there's only October Hiro present in the future he's travelled to.

Now, however, they're doing it differently. When Hiro travels to the future, the intervening time continues as if he'd never left, so when he travels from 2006 to 2011, Both 2006Hiro and 2011Hiro are present in the future.

What does this mean?
It means we can't possibly predict anything by using time travel in the show as evidence, because the gang can and will change the methodology to suit the plot. Same as with all the other powers. Hmmmm.....it's been a while since I've made a post like this, but I think it's the conclusion I've reached with every single ability so far.

Buckaroo · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately, you may be correct. Sad

SuperBoot96 · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

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deftonesdea · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject:

for now, until the end of the season, im gonna go with future hiro INFACT causing a "rift"

a "rift" can be used by the writers to explain ANY weird loopholes associated with hiro's timetravel

willstay · Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:23 am Post subject:

The idea of Hiro time travelling is okay but meeting his own self (past or future) does not fit logic properly.

# As soon as Hiro has made a time jump to the past, it is not like jumping into the past but it is like rewinding the time. (Hence Hiro should not meet his past instance).

# As soon as Hiro makes time jump into the future, it is new set of instance as during jump period, Hiro should have been missing. (explained: when Hiro time travels, his physical body disappears from point A and appears at B, and if you work on this logic, two instances of Hiro is not logical)

SuperBoot96 · Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject:

lapierre520

If Future Hiro came back in time and told Peter to save Claire, which he did, wouldn't that have changed the future significantly since Future Sylar then would not have the ability to heal when we saw him in FYG. Also if Hiro and Ando know that they are supposed to stop the bomb then the hiro and Ando two days in the future would have already succedeed or not succedeed, so when we saw the future in FYG it would have already changed right? Time Travel is extremely confusing. Also what are the pyschological ramifications of seeing yourself die in the future as Hiro did. and now that Ando knows he is going to die in the future then he is going to try to change it and that might cause a paradox! gack