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midasman86 FINGER MISSLES... GO!!!


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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| I think by saving Peter, Gabriel screwed himself with Arthur. Not to say he wasnt already screwed, but that might have made things worse. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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What about an alternate theory? Perhaps "Arthur" saved Peter?
Answer: I highly doubt this! I really think it was Sylar slowing his TK ability to the point Peter survived.
THEORY: Sylar used his new ability to see the past & history to simply understand that everything Arthur was telling him was "A LIE". ----This is why he saved Peter and has taken on the responsibility of bringing down Arthur. His I.A. will also serve him well in this endeavor! (which also leads him to get to know "Elle" so much better.) |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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THEORY: Sylar used his new ability to see the past & history to simply understand that everything Arthur was telling him was "A LIE". ----This is why he saved Peter and has taken on the responsibility of bringing down Arthur. His I.A. will also serve him well in this endeavor! (which also leads him to get to know "Elle" so much better.) |
Very likely, but I don't think we'll ever find out from the writers that Gabriel did this (if he in fact did). I do agree that this is how Gabriel could have discovered that Arthur is truly a villain. I don't think what Arthur told him was a lie, I just think that Gabriel realizes that Angela's intentions are better than Arthur's. Gabriel's goal, first and foremost, is to rid himself of his hunger. |
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Action Figure Mimics Powers... Ive got THE HUNGAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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as far as we saw, He didnt touch Arthur.
Which is probably a good idea on his part.
I'd say he just disbelieves him anyway. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not real clear on Arthur's ability... Obviously, powers are absorbed, but look at the differences in the incidents we've seen: Adam: was destroyed, Peter: quick but painful, Maya: seemed like a laborious process for Arthur and for Maya, then Arthur seemed to have an uncontrolled exhibition of her power momentarily (the black eyes). Arthur healed right up after Adam. He's loving his new electrical power, using it rather frequently. Interesting that two of his offspring have abilities that let them take/absorb the powers of others... are they all the same power, just exhibited in different fashions???? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting that two of his offspring have abilities that let them take/absorb the powers of others... are they all the same power, just exhibited in different fashions???? |
I'd have to say yes to be honest. Nathan is the odd one out because he's a synth, but it seems that both Peter and Gabriel inherited their father's power in different ways.
As for Arthur taking powers, I guess some are harder to take than others. Maya has a very powerful ability, I expect even Arthur had a little difficulty controlling it for those first few moments. Now that he has it though, watch out!
What I want to know is what power he used on Maury. Yikes, instant kill! Super strength at close range perhaps? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| It was telekinesis |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| What I want to know is what power he used on Maury. Yikes, instant kill! eek Super strength at close range perhaps? |
Adammeister, Action Figure was right. It was Telekinesis. Notice TK and EK seem to be Arthur's preferred method of powers right now. And I also agree, watch out for MAYA's power now. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| With the new leak that Sylar is actually a mimic also, next episode will probably show where he got IA from (which I believe to be the first power he mimiced)....I think Sylar got mindwiped before he knew about his mimicry, then Angela gave him up to the Gray's to hide him from Arthur. Unknowingly good at watch repair (using his acquired IA) Gabriel started to get the hunger.... |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not real clear on Arthur's ability... Obviously, powers are absorbed, but look at the differences in the incidents we've seen: Adam: was destroyed, Peter: quick but painful, Maya: seemed like a laborious process for Arthur and for Maya, then Arthur seemed to have an uncontrolled exhibition of her power momentarily (the black eyes). |
Arthur absorbs abilities permanently. That's his power. Adam died because his healing ability was keeping him from appearing to be 400 years old, so once that was gone, Adam turned into the 400 year old corpse that he truly was. It doesn't make ANY sense, I agree, but that's the way the writers have portrayed it in the story, so that's the way it's gonna go for healers. If Arthur took away Claire's power, she'd be the same for the most part, because she really is a 17 year old girl in the show.
Both Peter and Maya reacted the same way because it hurt, and as Arthur told Peter, it caused his body to go into shock, after which is passed out. Maya was obviously in pain too, but happy to realize that it was gone after Arthur was finished.
Regardless of how Arthur does it, it probably hurts no matter what.
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| I'd have to say yes to be honest. Nathan is the odd one out because he's a synth, but it seems that both Peter and Gabriel inherited their father's power in different ways. |
I still think that Arthur wasn't born with his ability, but that's just me. That would make Arthur, and Nathan, both the odd ones out. Maybe that's why Arthur favored Nathan the most.
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| What I want to know is what power he used on Maury. Yikes, instant kill! Super strength at close range perhaps? |
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| It was telekinesis |
Definitely... TK to snap Maury's neck. I'm glad Maury went down as a hero though, trying to save his son.
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| And I also agree, watch out for MAYA's power now. |
Remember the (unconfirmed) spoiler that said that
everybody would be dead at the end of the volume?
Might have something to do with Maya's ability You heard it here first!
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| With the new leak that Sylar is actually a mimic also, next episode will probably show where he got IA from (which I believe to be the first power he mimiced).... |
Awesome theory! I love it!
So if this is true, perhaps Angela HADN'T given up Gabriel for adoption, he wouldn't be a murderer.... |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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PK - I'm thinking Maya's power (now Arthur's) is going to have something to do with the Eclipse. This whole Arthur having a God complex - perhaps wanting to be GOD is going to become more and more evident.
I see a lot of correlation and similarities between Arthur and Sylar. (notice I did not use the name Gabriel.) Both are power hungry and ruthless no matter what stands in their way. Of course, we know that currently Gabriel is in conflict with himself right now, which I'm sure Arthur was also at once upon a time.
Thought: What was the one cancellation/balance to Maya's power? Her brother Alejandro. Perhaps Peter will go back in time (with Hiro) in order to absorb his power. I sure hope Arthur does NOT steal Hiro's power. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| I sure hope Arthur does NOT steal Hiro's power. |
I agree, that could get very messy. Plus, I like Hiro.
PK: Good thinking there. The irony would be that the very future that Angela tried to prevent was caused by her. I guess she knows very well that "you don't screw with time". Oh, and upon watching the episode again, it's pretty clear that Arthur used TK on Maury. Now I feel silly. The new leak about Sylar explains quite a bit, wow. Nice thinking there FourTwenSesh.
I also think that Maya's power is going to come into play in some important way. As for everyone being dead at the end of the volume...I don't like that thought at all. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| as far as we saw, He didnt touch Arthur. |
Action, I agree as far as we didn't know he touched Arthur; however, I just watched the episode for the second time on G4 (played 9pm CST) and Arthru clearly extended his hand for Gabriel to grab in order to be helped off the floor after falling. (as for knowing whether Gabriel grabbed his hand - thus using his ability of reading the past, remains to be seen.)
As for story plots, I think it makes sense: Gabriel goes to rescue Peter "wanting to be good - And LIKING IT." Gabriel does this, then sees his "brother Peter" risk his own life to save Gabriel, thus deepening Gabriel's feeling of commitment to that which he has always wanted -- FAMILY! (evidenced by the future and his son Noah.)
He therefore reads Arthur (assuming he took his hand to be helped up.) and determines that his own father is lying. In which case Gabriel semi-turns Sylar in that he completely agrees with the Petrelli revenge factor!!! Afterwards, he saves Peter by TK'ing his arse right out the window KNOWING that in fact Arthur would save Peter because he still needs Peter's blood to perfect the FORMULA!!! (FIRM THEORY: Arthur saved Peter and Gabriel "knew" he would which is why Gabriel threw him out of the window, thus saving him. - Knowing Arthur would save him.) |
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