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obsidianflame · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:19 am Post subject:

It's mentioned somewhere in the other info on Drucker that he vehemently hates the Company and that the Company is terrified of him, so it makes sense that he'd abandon the US when it was formed. Wonder how Deveaux took it? And why did Deveaux join the Company if his friend was so against it?

Hercules67 · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:58 am Post subject:

I smell a Popkorny theory in all of this and I am waiting with baited breath....

I have always wondered, as different as Deveaux seems to have been from all the others WHY he would have joined that group. Blackmail? Could he have been forced by someone who had a similar power to Eden's? I dunno.... Charles and the company suddenly don't make sense....

flapjacks · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject:

yeah and the scret society involved the symbol

Jormengrund · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject:

Could there be a direct correlation between Drucker and Adam that we've not seen yet?

After all, it seems to me that Adam was trying desperately to hide from someone besides Hiro this season. If not, then why did he really need Peter, when he could have eventually subjugated someone from Primatech later, and gotten the virus strain that he was looking for?

I'd say that there's going to be some bad blood between Drucker and Adam that drives a wedge between everyone, and causes the rift that nobody wants to talk about.

Thoughts?

ledlevee · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject:

In my heart I Know she was beautiful, but I
only knew her for a moment. He was bold, I am
sure, but of him I remember nothing. Is it possible that
when passion gets stired with violence something
Remarkable can be born? Is that what started
it all... a stolen moment beneath the
gathering clouds

I'm not sure why, but when I was reading that, I couldn't help but think that maybe his father is Adam Monroe. I still think lots, or maybe all, of these characters have family ties to him. I still think it's implied, especially by his name, that he's the first hero and all others are his descendants. Perhaps he told the 12 founders this and this is why they trusted him at first. And maybe Drucker didn't trust him from the beginning. He says he remembered nothing of his father, so if he came across him later at the founding of the Company, he probably wouldn't have known him. I suppose this is just my wild imagination, but I'm really stretching to find some way to tie this into the show so it has relevance. Right now it all seems sort of pointless.

Jormengrund · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject:

Or what if the "she" that is being referred to is the Princess?

After all, she fell for Hiro, and was the reason that Adam and Hiro fell out of sorts with each other.

Why not also be the dividing wedge between Drucker and Adam as well?

Something's starting to smell, and I'd say that there's a bit more at work here than just an ordinary set of circumstances..

obsidianflame · Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:50 am Post subject:

This got posted last week but I just found it today after trying to find something new for Hana's latest text message: http://blog.9thwonders.com/cogitoergosum/2007/12/

From what I've read in several different comments (not just on this particular post), the lines at the end of the Dec. 19 post are chords to Miles Davis' "Blue in Green." The lyrics are posted in the comments.

Any insight from the music lovers? I'm a piano player, so those chords honestly mean nothing to me.

The other thing is Hana keeps saying that Drucker is sending her cryptic messges, but all her text messages link back to her blog and not to the Cogitoergosum blog where these messages are actually being posted. The 360 guys are slacking off!

Merry Christmas to all those celebrating! And to those who aren't, Season's Greetings! Very Happy

popkorn615 · Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:07 am Post subject:

Hercules67 · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:03 am Post subject:

You know, the notes, are surprisingly similar to DNA sequencing letters aren't they? I expect this to have a triple meaning:

-- The notes themselves meaning something;
-- I am suspecting a DNA meaning;
-- The words in the song have something to do with Drucker's past love.

(Oh yeah, and of course all of this analysis is taking place in a BLOG called COGITO ERGO SUM: "I Think, Therefore, I am" -- Interesting indeed!!!)

Thoughts?

obsidianflame · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:29 am Post subject:

I don't really see a genetic link in that, to be honest. I didn't connect it at all to genetic sequencing, because it doesn't use any of the letters commonly used in DNA sequences.

And yeah, I noticed the name of the blog. I wonder why there's no official link from anything Hana sends to that blog. You only find that blog if you're actually looking for it. Hmm...I wonder if that in and of itself is its own clue? chin

But anyway, back to why I came here to post...The fourth part of the Drucker documentary is finally up after a bit of a hiccup earlier this week (and once again, *yawn*). There's also a new conversation between Hana and Micah on the Corinthian's site. The conversation itself is rather dull. It's just Hana complaining to Micah that Drucker only speaks in riddles. But all of a sudden, some really weird interference interrupts the conversation. Micah is freaked out by it, but Hana thinks it's just a random hacker who's found their hangout and decides they need to find a new site to frequent.

It's obviously Drucker who makes his presence known, but I'm not sure if Hana actually understands that. Either she's playing it off so Micah doesn't get more freaked out, or she's as dense as a piece of lead and really doesn't realize it's Drucker.

Hercules67 · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:18 am Post subject:

What of the leads@GNIleads.com (or something like that) e-mail address at the end of the Drucker "Fake News Report"? Did anybody e-mail it to see what it's all about?

flapjacks · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject:

new thing on Hanas website, it gives a link to the audio file that played during her and Micahs Conversatiion. she want us to decipher any mean in it heres the link: http://www.samantha48616e61.com/popups/noise.aif

flapjacks · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject:

Update on the Audio File, if you turn the volume down on the right speaker you here a voice that says: " You're making me angry Hana and I've spent a lifetime containing my anger. You don't know what can happen when emotion takes the place of sanity." Pretty trippy

obsidianflame · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:16 am Post subject:

Nice, seems I've been beaten to the punch. I just got Hana's text about the audio file. I heard the voice on the first playthrough but I couldn't decipher what it said. Now to figure out how to change the volume of individual speakers on this beast (I'm on a laptop). Good job, Flapjacks. yeah

Drucker's not a happy camper, it seems. Jeez.

Update: Someone posted the isolated left channel of the noise here. And I think it says "You’re making me angry, Hana, and I’ve spent a lifetime taming my anger. You don’t know what can happen when emotion takes the place of sanity." That seems to be the consensus, based on what I can find.

Hercules67 · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:45 am Post subject:

E-mail this back to leads@GNInewsleads.com and see what you get.....